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Re: What type of foil is best to lean on

Postby windfreak74 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:39 pm

dont have a clue how it wotks!
its from an italian builder.
its similar to what an australian is doing to surfboards and bodyboards.
i put it up so people comment it!
it seem a heck lot easier to build than a hydrofoil.

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Re: What type of foil is best to lean on

Postby calvin_1 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:15 pm

Do you have got a link or some more information?

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Re: What type of foil is best to lean on

Postby Europ2 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:42 pm

calvin_1 wrote:Do you have got a link or some more information?


Yup ! http://www.newind.net/news.html

Riccardo wrote:Have you ever seen a foil like this?
Get prepared for this revolution - soon available to all with extreme ease of use.


No video yet for this shape.

However, he has filmed his trials for interesting other shapes like a tuna fish or a shark.
Here on his YouTube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/NEWINDKITEBOARDS/videos

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Riccardo is the man. The father of the Marlin (the foil that floats with weight = 1.9 kg less than 4lbs )
http://www.newind.net/hydrofoil-newind-marlin.html

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Re: What type of foil is best to lean on

Postby calvin_1 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:32 pm

Great! Thx! Riccardo is very innovative, I got already a splitboard from Newind.

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We built this foil...more to come.

Postby distancemaster » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:59 pm

We built the foil in this video locally along with the shaft that connects to the carbon "Lift" board. Works great and is the easiest foil to learn on...we have tried the "Moses" and "MHL" and this was better for sure as it is slower. We'll have some other items coming out that will make it easier for new riders. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxQqakC3yzU

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Re: We built this foil...more to come.

Postby DrLightWind » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:17 pm

distancemaster wrote:We built the foil in this video locally along with the shaft that connects to the carbon "Lift" board. Works great and is the easiest foil to learn on...we have tried the "Moses" and "MHL" and this was better for sure as it is slower. We'll have some other items coming out that will make it easier for new riders. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxQqakC3yzU
Awsome :thumb:
Would you describe why it is easier to learn on yours and possibly posting some pictures,
since I'm just getting into foilboarding and trying to learn the easy way :?:

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Re: What type of foil is best to lean on

Postby Rbgar » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:30 am

Me too please, easier to learn the better

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Re: What type of foil is best to lean on

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:52 pm

As a quite new foilboarder, learning on medium but mostly really high aspect race foils, and my friend learning on a low AR beginner foil, I will add my experiences:

A high AR race foil is EXTREMELY hyper sensitive, and you will just "bob" up and down and get nowhere the first many many days....

Even WHEN you learn to ride straight for short periods, you dont feel "safe" (and "foilbomb" chrashes as I call it, are really tough).

When you eventually can ride a bit straight - then you have to learn to turn (jibes or tacks), which is evenmore impossible foiling "up", on racefoils :o

So a lose-lose at first sight :roll:

On the other hand, just like with raceboards, where you start with small fins, and even those feel "HUGE" and annoying - but after some experience you WANT to use bigger fins, and find them easy - it is the exact same thing with foils :thumb:

Learning foilboarding is easy, on beginner foils, and can only recommend these.

BUT, most will grow tired of these quite fast, as speed and perfomance, even for the "common" funloving enthusiast but not racers, will have a limiting funfactor quite fast :wink:

So just as with TT beginners - should you start with a big/huge board and sell it quite fast when kitesurfing is learned, or should you try to start the tough way on a small flat freestyle board immediately, and take the extra time it will take till you CAN actually ride and go upwind, and the downers you get when not succeding ?
Most will choose the first, but some do the last - personal preferences only (and also your history and friends can make a difference...)

As I've stated in another thread - hydrofoil kitesurfing is REALLY different and you need to learn totally new muscle memory action - you can almost not use ANY of your former experience, except for kite handling and wind experience.

So be prepared to be an almost totally beginner again, no matter what level and experience you got - this IS the case, believe me :lol:

So you have to use quite a long time to get the muscle memory "set", almost like windsurfing which is much more difficult to master than kitesurfing.

So DrLightwind - the answer is easy:

Choose a low AR beginner foil, a Carafino is perfect, if you want to learn the easy way.

And be prepared that it WILL take a long time, till you can master a faster foil - but it is worth the effort, as it gives you priceless challenges and eventually undescribable joy and happiness :sun:

8) Peter

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Re: What type of foil is best to lean on

Postby DrLightWind » Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:09 pm

Thank you Peter, great info :thumb:
I had a question to Gunnar in a thread but nobody responded .
What do you think about a foil mounted on a SUP like Gunnar since his riding in a light wind looked awesome :?:
Would that be easier to learn on with a bigger extreme board like that and keep it as a multiple purpose board
and what would be the disadvantages of riding like that from your background :?:

DrLW


Gunnar, good information :thumb:
I like your SUP foiling video which is obviously not a race board belonging to the topic,
but I'm interested to convert a SUP board and ride like that also with a multi purpose board,
in super light session going to places fast, than doing SUP Yoga, paddle boarding exploring, etc.
Would you share your experience and if the SUP board had some advantage in certain area,
since just by looking at the video didn't look like there was any disadvantage :?:

Thanks,

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Re: What type of foil is best to lean on

Postby Hawaiis » Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:18 pm

I have not tried the foil mounted on a SUP board, but I would imagine it would be very difficult to ride. The wind will also become a factor when the board gets airborne. It may create lift in the air, but it might get flip over if the speed increases and the Angle of attack is too high.


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