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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby Bille » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:15 pm

Slappysan wrote:...


This is a typical day at my main launch (not even that busy) and the only time you get to visually check your lines is when someone is holding up your kite for launch.


I'll Never complain about crowds again !!

You just made a Good case for : "Lines Always On" .

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby sijandy » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:39 pm

Slappysan wrote:
Flight Time wrote:You can do all of the same things in Crosswind "J" method. Put your bar upwind or crosswind from the kite. Run your lines slightly past the kite on the downwind side. Look and see your lines are straight. Flip your line manager 180 degrees toward the kite. Hook up and go.


I'm not sure you understand how to use a line manager, you connect your lines to your kite before running your lines.

You also seem to think the lines will lay flat without any tension in them in 25 knots of crosswind.

This is a typical day at my main launch (not even that busy) and the only time you get to visually check your lines is when someone is holding up your kite for launch.


Not that busy.... fuck that! Looks like an awesome spot though, where is that?

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby SupaEZ » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:48 pm

Bille wrote:
Slappysan wrote:...


This is a typical day at my main launch (not even that busy) and the only time you get to visually check your lines is when someone is holding up your kite for launch.


I'll Never complain about crowds again !!

You just made a Good case for : "Lines Always On" .

Bille


:thumb: :beer:
If i was Supa rich $$$$$$$$$$ i would buy all you guys on KF complete kites with lines on.....
....and conduct an experiment :wink:

Now...if all your kites had bar/lines ...would you leave them on ?

Or just by habit....still take them off ?

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby Flight Time » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:02 pm

SupaEZ wrote: :thumb: :beer:
If i was Supa rich $$$$$$$$$$ i would buy all you guys on KF complete kites with lines on.....
....and conduct an experiment :wink:

Now...if all your kites had bar/lines ...would you leave them on ?

Or just by habit....still take them off ?


Prolly take them off the first couple times by sheer force of habit, then grudgingly leave them on, with a disapproving frown just to show my distaste, while secretly enjoying the simplicity. :lol:

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby revhed » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:03 pm

EZ ,Cool I will always take a free kite! :thumb:
I have 5 bars for my 5 kites, I disconnect after EVERY session and rinse everything but the kite, always have always will.
Just the thought of rigging a salty bar, lines gives me the creeps.
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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby Westozzy » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:50 pm

When I used foils, I used to leave enough line so the bar was on the outside of the bag, and put my lines in a big esky with water, so I still washed them. That's how I'd do it.

Setting up my lines is as painful as pumping up big kites, rather not have to do it.

But I can't justify a bar for each kite given the price of the damn things.

Plus I change bars as well depending on whether I'm doing an old school big air board off session (so bigger kite than normal), a freestyle powered flat water session or a wave session with a SB...I use a different bar with differences in low and high Y and setup for different types of riding..hence can't work for me this method.

Hey what's the best line organiser out there?

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby SupaEZ » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:25 am

Westozzy wrote:When I used foils, I used to leave enough line so the bar was on the outside of the bag, and put my lines in a big esky with water, so I still washed them. That's how I'd do it.


Yep.... did just like Ozzy when i used to ride many different type foils

I apply that exact same technique now with all my LEI's :pump:

EZ 2 do ...leave enough slack lines so that bar stays outside the kite's LE or TE after it is folded...
.... and therefore is accessible outside the bag for rinse when you get home or at beach hose

Majority of people think that "leaving lines on" means that the bar/lines are rolled inside the kite

Well that is the wrong way....a wet bar/lines with sand on it should never be stored inside a kite

(i would think that for snow kiting it is not an issue since the bar is most likely dry and clean) :wink:

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby Slappysan » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:05 pm

wedge wrote:Looks like Squamish. Absolutely beautiful part of the world and a beautiful place to kite. It's a big river, so steep rocky banks and lots of towering trees... Right next to the "Sea To Sky Highway".

I'm guessing that's the only launch for miles.


Correct, it's the Squamish Spit ( https://www.google.ca/maps?q=49.686095,-123.178198 ). It's a great place to kite but we do have to wear full wetsuits all summer due to the glacier fed river outflow.

It's at the end of a Fjord so launch options are limited. There is another option though on the other side of the cargo terminal but it's an industrial site with some power line hazards so 95% of people use the Spit. We also have a full time jetski retreval service running from there because you can get in trouble pretty quick if things go wrong.

It's a smooth 25 knot thermal on sunny days for 6 months of the year though so it's hard to beat.

Here's what it feels like trying to rig on a busy day:
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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby tautologies » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:39 pm

This should be fairly easy. If you are at a busy spot, then attach lines the same way everyone else is. Problems arrive when you do it different from everyone else.

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby Westozzy » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:25 am

Crowded day at one of our main spots....crazy days!! Son getting some crabs for dinner after our session. No probs with glacial waters...lol

We got 30 km of this, and ocean side is about 1km on the other side....less crowded there...bahahahahhahaa
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