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 Post subject: Foils for big air
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:18 am 
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This happened back in January, but I don't think it was posted here on the forum:
Adam Koch won the big air/hang time competition at the Lord of the Wind while riding his Aguera foilboard! I had seen the videos of people jumping on foil boards, but thought it was more of a novelty than a way to get more air or more hang time.

Not sure if this is the winning jump, but you can see Adam going big at 0:58 in this video:



Seem like there was a good bit of wind, so wasn't even just a lightwind victory for the foilboard.

Have others found that they jump higher or longer with a foilboard than with a twin tip?


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 Post subject: Re: Foils for big air
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:47 am 
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davesails7 wrote:
Have others found that they jump higher or longer with a foilboard than with a twin tip?

I believe so however I had a TT under me feet last time 5 years ago :D
Faster foils will be better than slower.
No doubts in winds below 15kts.

Probably this is not a good place but I have to state it:
This foilboarding is the best thing in my entire 12 years of kiting.
Jumping, cruising, sailing like an tourist, kitelooping, riding waves, strapless, racing - all in one.
Never thought that the formula "all in one" would deliver promised quality.


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 Post subject: Re: Foils for big air
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:15 am 
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Indeed - in light wind the jumps are WAY higher with a foilboard, because of the amazing apparent wind. Both in terms of speed, but also angle to the wind of course.

As the wind goes up, the difference would naturally be smaller - although, you will always have an apparent wind advantage on the foil, even in high winds.
IF you can control your gear in higher winds - but maybe easier in high wind than a TT because of huge chop :thumb:

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 Post subject: Re: Foils for big air
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:34 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Foils for big air
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:42 pm 
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Foiling is a pretty cool direction, and the fact that people are so good on em now that they can jump with height is great, but its just apparent that its a particular thing and and not likely to be the dominant board out there any time soon.... if ever.

real world waves, most jumping... certainly without dangle, obstacles, shallow ripping and beach fun. There is just too much fun to be had on the right tool for the job.

That first super slick transition in the clip above tho makes me want to learn it. That is pretty sweet and I look forward to see how good the race crew can get.

Interested to see if it will be modified to provide a new direction for the speed crew too.

No doubt its here to stay, but jumping with em looks pretty novelty.

Kite loops. Baracru, Pllllllease!


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 Post subject: Re: Foils for big air
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:40 pm 
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Starsky wrote:
No doubt its here to stay, but jumping with em looks pretty novelty.
Kite loops. Baracru, Pllllllease!

It looks pretty novelty as we learn jumping. Agreed. Crashes look terrible. Once mastered might look smooth and impressive.
Kiteloops - sounds wicked and stupid but I love to master it on the foil. I must be wicked and stupid :roll:
I do not have any thing on a video with KL yet. But whatever said I am enjoing to train a frontloop transition with a kiteloop. As I heard from watchers it looked great.
I do not if you saw a most simple backloop like this:

People watching it from a boat was rather impressed.
I call it fun but realistically do not expect foil participating in Red Bull in Cape Town.


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 Post subject: Re: Foils for big air
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:52 pm 
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Starsky you would only need a 7m if you had a foil! One kite 4 boards!


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 Post subject: Re: Foils for big air
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:57 pm 
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A pulling foil would allow a kiter to use a much more powerful kite, so should be much higher performance for speed and jumps.


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 Post subject: Re: Foils for big air
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:56 am 
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Thanks Bracuru for another very helpful post. I was inspired by your back roll video and tried a few today. I actually landed two of them. I am very stoked. Big thanks again for all your positive contributions here.

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 Post subject: Re: Foils for big air
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:14 am 
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I was stoked for good once I landed first backroll without board kissing the water. WHAT A FEELING! Unknown to me before in kiteboarding.
Now I want to ride in straps :oops: and jump, jump, jump to feel it again as it does not happen too often so far. Almost in most cases my board touches the water once or twice still.
BTW.
Try to add a kiteloop to your backlooping. What fun :D

I patiently wait for more experienced guns to show what is foil jumping about :idea:
I am too old, got too good family, friends and job to lose it :wink:


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