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 Post subject: Re: Is Rebel being phased out ?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:32 pm 
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windybrit wrote:
I reckon the only problem the Rebel has in the current North lineup is that it doesn't end in a vowel


The last letter of Rebel represent the noseline "l" :thumb:

By the way i live and kite at 5th street :surf: and really like all my 5 Rebels ( 12-10-8-6-5m)


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 Post subject: Re: Is Rebel being phased out ?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:48 pm 
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NYKiter wrote:
Does the Rebel relaunch better?


yup. square wingtips are less conducive to water relaunch than swept.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Rebel being phased out ?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:21 pm 
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NorCalNomad wrote:
NYKiter wrote:
Does the Rebel relaunch better?


yup. square wingtips are less conducive to water relaunch than swept.




Agreed although the tips on yeh dice are sort of swept back and not dead C, the C comes from the actual canopy profile. The rebel also has aspect working against it in the relaunch department. Then again the dice actually has some decent aspect, it's relatively thin through the body. Dice isn't the easiest to relaunch for sure but not the hardest either!


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 Post subject: Re: Is Rebel being phased out ?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:56 am 
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After the Airush Vapors were phased out I was thinking about getting Liquid Force HiFi X's but the Dice might be closer to what I'm used to with Vapors. I would set it up on my custom bar with regular fifth set up instead of the Y's though it's just easier to maintain and see if the fifth is tensioned properly.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Rebel being phased out ?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:24 am 
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There is a nice quiver for you 7m Rebel, 9m Dice, 12m Dyno.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Rebel being phased out ?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:29 am 
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Rebel is not the #1 kite in the world.
It's just usual mkt b/s

Go anywhere and tell me if u see many rebels. They are way too expensive and design haven't changed since 2011.

True they are common but Slimgshot RPM are everywhere in US, Cabrinha in South America and Naish/North in Europe.

And trust me rebel is not #1.

The majority of riders do not want anything to do with 5 lines.

I owned 6 rebels. I love them. But I am glad I got rid of them because of 5 line, battens and inflation. Packing that kite is a joke.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Rebel being phased out ?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:28 am 
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2014 has a noticeable and significant improvement over the 2011-2013. Especially the 2011/2012.

Inflation with the new valve is as easy as it gets.

Battens are not really that big a issue for pack up.

Fifth line, agree with that. But there are advantages.

So how do you know it's just marketing? Or are you just marketing your own idea by looking at kites on the water around your local?


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 Post subject: Re: Is Rebel being phased out ?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:45 am 
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Westozzy wrote:
2014 has a noticeable and significant improvement over the 2011-2013. Especially the 2011/2012.

Inflation with the new valve is as easy as it gets.

Battens are not really that big a issue for pack up.

Fifth line, agree with that. But there are advantages.

So how do you know it's just marketing? Or are you just marketing your own idea by looking at kites on the water around your local?


Agreed.

I love the rebel,

I love the fifth line, and have been using four and five line kites together for almost a decade on water and snow, and never consider the fifth line a issue, I have had it wrap, but I always just go to the safety and it unwraps and I relaunch. On snow the Rebel is unreal for the year round kiter, and the fifth line keeps you out of trouble on the land and while self launching, It is exceptionally safe for self landings, and then there is the feel.... you can not beat the feel the direct connect system has.

I love the new valve, you can roll to the center if you just cant figure out how to fold the fabric to the wing tip.

I love the battens, and how they work, ( I hate the extras poke through the bag if you do not tape the ends). I don't mid be cautious when packing them.

I love that I need to use skill and roll my kite up with loving care to insure it fits neatly in the bag. There are kiters I know that pack in a hurry and have a big mess. The rebel may not be for that kiter, there are other kites in Norths line that pack easier, so the option is there from the brand, you make a commitment to the rebel to enjoy its character this is true.

This is the common review of the rebel ."I love them. But"...The first part of the statement tells you how good the kite is, the packing, fithline, and batten complaints are part of the joy of owning a rebel, and some don't mind having to work a little differently to fly and use the rebel once it is in the air, Hell people put up with foil kite characteristics? My Ducati takes more time and effort to maintain and operate then my Yamaha, but the reward of ownership is huge with one and ..ok with the other.

Heh, El Presidente, Not a single RPM on my beaches here in Utah, America, there was when they came out but not anymore, lots of rebels, though, I am not smack talking just sharing this info. I enjoy the RPM, not discounting it, just saying there are not any around my 8 or 9 launches.

I have also flown the 2011,2012,2013,2014 rebel and they all feel similar but are very different in build, and characteristics when you fly them back to back, they just keep getting stronger and more durable with little tweaks, and yes they are pricey, but the resale is great so you pay extra but you sell for more, in my experience.

There are 2011 north kites locally that look brand new and still fly better then many of the 2014 kites from other brands. Saying the kite hasn't need much change since 2011 to remain competitive is a how I look at it.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Rebel being phased out ?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:00 pm 
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I've flown the new 12m Rebel a few times... Man is it smooth and direct. I could not stop looping it, nor wipe the smile off of my face. It felt as lively as a 10m!
Come on out to the SPI Kite Ranch and try one for yourself. :thumb:


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