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 Post subject: Re: Carafino Updates: General Topic
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:38 pm 
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Hmmm, now I know why you're a Wind Rider :?:
Smelling your own fart in front of the screen riding the key board
and getting high on that ehh :soap:


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino Updates: General Topic
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:37 pm 
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this forum has become so much a hater topic that I am sure people with legitimate concerns are not posting. I had planned in great deal to document my 'caraffino experience' once received.


Yeah, keep posting please. Did you finally receive your foil?

It's really strange that with the hundreds of foils supposedly sent out now no review or video surfaced yet. People opting for the 2 for 1 deal should write rave reviews right now to sell the second foil. Perhaps nobody dares to report negative opinion?


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino Updates: General Topic
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:55 pm 
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Arcsrule wrote:
this forum has become so much a hater topic that I am sure people with legitimate concerns are not posting. I had planned in great deal to document my 'caraffino experience' once received.

Maybe just leave out the "C word" and it wil live a while before the flaming starts...
I'm still willing to believe it may be a good product, despite all this silliness, and curious....


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino Updates: General Topic
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:01 pm 
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lezo wrote:
Arcsrule wrote:
this forum has become so much a hater topic that I am sure people with legitimate concerns are not posting. I had planned in great deal to document my 'caraffino experience' once received.


Yeah, keep posting please. Did you finally receive your foil?

It's really strange that with the hundreds of foils supposedly sent out now no review or video surfaced yet. People opting for the 2 for 1 deal should write rave reviews right now to sell the second foil. Perhaps nobody dares to report negative opinion?


got two boards Thursday...still waiting on foils. I totally agree with you. I am 'certain' the rave reviews are not posted because all who have received the complete package are newbys, and they had to hitch hike to the water ....and then there was no wind...and when the wind came up finally, they could not get up on the foil...and then a sweet young thing with a nice rack offered to apply sunscreen...and then the wind came in...but the better offer was taken.


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino Updates: General Topic
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:22 pm 
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wind_rider wrote:
My concearn is that they have taken a large number of orders/deposits/payments and these stories are few and far between and for every happy story I could show you PM's I have had from people who realise they have been turned over and are trying to get their money back via banks anti fraud arrangements.


Seriously... Its never been your problem. Individuals take a risk with a "deal of the century" and send their CC companies to deal with these types of messes if needed.

Totally agree that many of the updates from Mr C are just marketing BS, and certainly not happy with the lack of worker PPE... At the end of the day, there is product out there and a few people have both board and foils on the water.

Sorry to break it to you, but you have got some issues of your own to deal with.


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino Updates: General Topic
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:14 pm 
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wind_rider wrote:
My concearn is that they have taken a large number of orders/deposits/payments and these stories are few and far between and for every happy story I could show you PM's I have had from people who realise they have been turned over and are trying to get their money back via banks anti fraud arrangements.


Seriously... Its never been your problem. Individuals take a risk with a "deal of the century" and send their CC companies to deal with these types of messes if needed.

Totally agree that many of the updates from Mr C are just marketing BS, and certainly not happy with the lack of worker PPE... At the end of the day, there is product out there and a few people have both board and foils on the water.

Sorry to break it to you, but you have got some issues of your own to deal with

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I for one think this guy has serious issues and possibly needs medicating ,,, of his 90 -100 post or so , every one of them is a negative public bashing of mr C , not wonder he wants to get on a plane and punch his head in, I would have by now....


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino Updates: General Topic
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:44 am 
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I should be taking my Carafino for its maiden voyage next weekend.. Picking it up tomorrow night.. All acounts I've heard from the others is that the quality was better than what they were expecting and it felt quite solid.. When I have had a few rides I'll post a review :)


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino Updates: General Topic
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:28 am 
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lezo wrote:
Arcsrule wrote:
this forum has become so much a hater topic that I am sure people with legitimate concerns are not posting. I had planned in great deal to document my 'caraffino experience' once received.


Yeah, keep posting please. Did you finally receive your foil?

It's really strange that with the hundreds of foils supposedly sent out now no review or video surfaced yet. People opting for the 2 for 1 deal should write rave reviews right now to sell the second foil. Perhaps nobody dares to report negative opinion?


I suspect most of the Carafino purchasers are beginners with no foilboarding experience so getting some feedback from them will take some time and will not be worth much anyway.

What will count is the feedback from an experienced rider who can make a direct comparison with other foils. Strange this hasn't happened yet since a good review (even biased) would benefit the manufacturer. Weren't they supposed to enter that race in San Diego last week? What happened?


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino Updates: General Topic
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:45 am 
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windmaker wrote:
Weren't they supposed to enter that race in San Diego last week? What happened?


This is where Mr C and his marketing meets reality. The Long Beach racing was invitational only, so irrespective of the marketing video associated with "wanting first place but would be ok with third place", Mr C or his subordinates were not racing. The caliber of individual who was racing was so high, they have been competing for extended periods on their own equipment. They certainly were not going to take a new product they had no experience with and start competing with it and expect to come in first or third.

Given how new Mr C's board is, no one in Long Beach is currently riding them with any skill, but given time, I'm sure they will. Having looked at some of the older C boards as well as the new C board, they are decent products, but like wind_rider, every time Mr C opens his mouth, he becomes his own worst enemy because you don't know what to believe... Lots of enthusiasm and bravado coupled with lousy marketing and poor execution.

Ultimately, its a question of equipment vs experience and skill, and although Mr C's marketing is focused on new board = wins on a race course! When you strip away the marketing, it comes down to how revolutionary the race wing is compared to other race wings since once a board is foiling, it all comes down to the capabilities of the foils themselves... and there appears to be nothing special with the Mr C foil... Experience and rider skill is going to win every time.

I used to be competitive, but these days I am happy with easy... The irony is my buddies are having fun with modified air chair foils. The one fault I see with many of the foil companies is they are focused on high end and all of them could do with a big reality check given you don't have to make or sell an expensive high end, hard to use product. Current prices are ridiculous and I know there will be good foils entering the market at or just above $1000... Hopefully built by workers provided with the appropriate PPE.


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino Updates: General Topic
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:14 am 
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