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 Post subject: Re: Carafino 2-4-1 The Truth Exposed
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:45 pm 
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Randahl wrote:
Saw my very first triumphant arch in the flesh yesterday at the beach. It only had 3 of the mast plate bolts screwed in with the front one missing. I asked about it. The owner said he tightened that one and it gave a little pop and out came the insert.


wow, not a good start.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:55 am 
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but it does have a lifetime warranty! :blabla:


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Arcsrule wrote:
but it does have a lifetime warranty! :blabla:


not the board..


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:36 pm 
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Randahl wrote:
Saw my very first triumphant arch in the flesh yesterday at the beach. It only had 3 of the mast plate bolts screwed in with the front one missing. I asked about it. The owner said he tightened that one and it gave a little pop and out came the insert.



haha there is a reason why they are cheap. Its because they are shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino 2-4-1 The Truth Exposed
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:21 pm 
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Tone wrote:
Arcsrule wrote:
but it does have a lifetime warranty! :blabla:


not the board..


you think anything they supply has a warranty :o :o :o :o

http://www.carafinouk.com/indexcara.html


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino 2-4-1 The Truth Exposed
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:29 pm 
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OK i finally found time to post the email communications.

Here is a summary:

Feb 1st carafino says boards will ship before end of Feb.
Feb 18th He says 12 boards are going to Florida by march 15th.
March 10th he says "Where getting it ready".
March 20th He reports he caught Dengue fever and that his proaction manager vanished in the missing Malaysian flight.
April 1st he says boards are ready and he is preparing a shipment to LA
Apri 7th he says a large shipment is on the way to LAX.
April 18th I asked for tracking and he said he is waiting for the shipper to supply hiim with the "tracking flight route".
April 23rd he says this is the foil shipment going out tomorrow.
April 25th he says they will ship tomorrow.
May 2nd i received a fedex tracking number.
May 7th i emailed him telling him i got the boards but no foils or bindings.
May 10th he says missing parts will arrive with the foils.
May 16th he says "this week will come the other goods"'.
May 24th he says "we are preparing the foils".
June 12th he says the foils are coming late next week.
June 15th he says he is waiting for the foils to arrive.
June 19th i told him I'm tired of waiting and prefer a refund if he can't deliver.

There are some more communications but he still has not deliver the foils. I and 3 others in FL have submitted a dispute to our credit card companies and they are investingaing. I also filed police reports. This will probably go to civlil court. Anyone who is a victim of this scam, please contribute, file police reports and keep all records. Its recommended that you dispute your CC charges before 6 months of purchase date.

See emails below.

Hello Adam:

How are you?

I have arrived back at home in Bali, but still working on this project. Thanks for your email. I have your dispute with the bank, thank you.

I have some family in the area of where you are. I am deciding how to manage your situation. Either I will have the boards picked up and refund your card, which is the most easiest for all of us. No need to pack it up and send it out. Please be sure not to let the boards become damage.

I will contact you tomorrow, once I have the logistics sorted out.

Thanks, Carrion



From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils

So what's the deal bro?



From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Sent: Sat, Jun 21, 2014 5:05:52 PM

Hello Adam:

Is there any issue with your boards? Are you unhappy with the boards? I understand the delay has you upset and rightly so, however, I want to learn if the boards are with some issue.

From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils

Ok last we talked you told me that the foils would be here late this week. Do you have a tracking number for me yet? If u can't deliver please refund me. I'm tired of this game.



From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Sent: Sun, Jun 15, 2014 7:49:54 PM

HELLO ADAM:

HOW ARE YOU? OK, FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU ARE KITING FRIENDS WITH THIS GUY? :
Mr. ****** Jones
*****@att.net
******* Jon******
1**********idge Ct
Jacksonville, Florida 32225

NEXT, I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE YOUR BOARDS. SORRY I HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN THAT YOU DO BUT WANT TO CONFIRM THAT YOU DO ONE FINAL TIME.

FINALLY. I AM AWAITING FOILS TO ARRIVE ME AND I AM IN THE USA TO DO SO. OUR SHIPPER WORKS ON CASH UPFRONT ONLY. SO WE HAVE HAD TO MANAGE THE PAYMENT.

WE ARE ABOUT 20,000 USD OUT ON BOARD SHIPMENTS, AND NOW WE WILL BE PREPARING THE FOIL SHIPMENTS FROM CALIFORNIA ONCE THEY ARRIVE INBOUND FROM OVERSEAS.

I HAVE NOT BEEN NEGLECTING YOU.

IN THE USA, YOU CANNOT WIRE FUNDS ABROAD ONLINE, YOU HAVE TO DO BY PRE SIGNED DOCUMENTS WITH THE BANK, WE RAN OUT OF THOSE SIGNED DOCS. I AM NOW ON MAUI TO GO INTO THE BANK TOMORROW TO SIGN MORE DOCS AND PULL THE SHPPING FUNDS REQUIRED FOR THE FOILS.

AFTER WE GET EVERYONE THEIR FOILS, I WILL NO LONGER MAKE THESE ANYMORE, IT WAS AN EXCITING PROJECT AND IT TOOK LONGER TO COMPLETE THAN I WANTED. BUT I KNOW EASIER WAYS TO MAKE A LIVING AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WOULD RATHER GO RIDE ONE THAN DEAL WITH ALL THE PRESSURES OF TRYING TO KEEP EVERYONE HAPPY ON A TWO FOR ONE DEAL.

WHAT STOCK WE HAVE LEFT OVER WILL RETAIL FOR 3000 USD EACH.

I WILL RETURN TO CALIFORNIA ON TUES.

TALK SOON. CARAFINO
808 870 9073


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils

well???

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Sent: Sat, Jun 14, 2014 11:14:31 PM

Adam, you have two boards correct?

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils

Hi Adam,

Just confirming you have two boards, with screws and ring flat washers for the foot strap attachment?

You require the bolts for attaching the foil and the foot straps + hydrofoils complete?

Please confirm, we are preparing the foils and I want to be certain I include all in your package.

Carafino


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils

Happy Monday Carafino, Just looking for an update. Will the foils be coming soon? I was told last week in the previous email. Please advise.

Thanks,

Adam




From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: "adambator@yahoo.com" <adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils

This week will come the other goods.


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils

OK thanks. can u PLEASE tell me when approx u will be shipping the rest?

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: adambator@yahoo.com <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Sent: Sat, May 10, 2014 12:03:32 AM

THEY WILL ARRIVE WITH THE FOILS, STRAPS AND HARD WARE TO ATTACH THE FOIL.


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils

No long bolts, no straps, no foils,. Just two boards a strip of styrofoam and 2 bags of washers. Each board does have four screws in the top for the straps.

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Sent: Fri, May 9, 2014 12:21:34 AM

HI Adam:

Thanks for the email and the pic. The pads are two different styles. That is why it lacks the upper piece.

There should have been straps in the box. What material was in your box aside from the boards and the screw and washer?

Are there long bolts of 4 cm in the board in the diamond attachment box underneath the board?

Back to you.


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: Christopher CARAFINO <foilboarding@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils

Photo attached. Maybe its supposed to be that way on the white board, im not sure. No straps in the box but there are two bags of washers. Please tell me, when will you be shipping the foils? It's the foils and T-bar that i need. I am willing to pay for expedited shipping.

Thanks,

Adam

From: Christopher CARAFINO <foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils

please send a photo of the missing part. there was no foot straps in the box?

Sent on the go by Apple device. Thanks for contacting me & I will reply you in greater detail shortly. . .Mango.


On May 7, 2014, at 3:49 AM, Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello Mr. Carafino,

I received the package today but there were only two boards in the package. No bindings and no foils. Can you tell me when i should expect the next package with the bindings and foils please?

Also, the white board is missing the front part of the foot padding. Can you please send this piece to me?

Thanks,

Adam

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 12:54 AM
Subject:


794947799158
fedex.com

Re: Good to Go
carafino Apr 26
To
adambator@yahoo.com
It will leave CA. tomorrow. We just took custody of the boards from the customs warehouse.


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Did the boards ship out to Fort Lauderdale Florida yet? When will it arrive?

From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>;
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Fri, Apr 25, 2014 1:42:05 AM

Did it ship to Fort Lauderdale Florida? When will it arrive?

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: "adambator@yahoo.com" <adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Yes, this is the foil shipment. It is being released later today from customs finally. So we have it tomorrow and get it out.


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Okay just making sure. You are sending me two boards and two foils in this shipment?

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: adambator@yahoo.com <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Tue, Apr 22, 2014 1:27:07 PM

NO PROBLEM. YOUR BOARD CLEARS CUSTOMS TOMORROW IN LAX. RELEASED AND GOING TO FLORIDA, F.L.


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

I'm in Florida.

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Tue, Apr 22, 2014 5:50:55 AM

Hello Adam:

I arrive tomorrow evening into Long Beach and pick up the boards on Thrusday. Can meet with you to deliver.


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Hey bro, it's been two weeks since you sent me a message saying my foils were on their way to the US. Do you have an update for me?

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: "adambator@yahoo.com" <adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

I am waiting on the shipper to supply me with the tracking flight route for the goods.

From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

OK. will do. thx! when should I expect to see them?

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Tue, Apr 15, 2014 11:27:21 PM

PLEASE KEEP THE NO CHARGE TO YOURSELF OR I WILL HAVE EVERYONE DEMANDING THE SAME.


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Please provide me with more details like when i will see it at my door and a tracking number would be great! Thx!

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: "adambator@yahoo.com" <adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Large shipment on the way to LAX.

From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

I hear you bro but its been over 2 months already. Do you have a shipping date for me yet? I saw your video online man, the foil looks sweet! I also heard you say that you were possibly going to throw in some freebies for those who had to wait. If you do happen I would love an extra pair of wings. Either way man please try to give me a date because all we're having is light wind down here and I need a foil bad!
Blessing,
Adam

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: adambator@yahoo.com <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 2:08:48 PM

Your boards are ready. I am preparing a large shipment by air to LA. Will advise further shortly. Carafino


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Hey bro when will our boards be shipped?

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Thu, Mar 20, 2014 11:10:53 PM

Hello Adam:

Sorry I am late, as you know I have had Dengue, but I am stronger now. We also lost our production of foils manager in the Malaysia missing plane. I have not made that public. But we took a blow on that. Our silence has been from our regrouping and also from my illness.

We are coming back online here this week. I will have shipments going out. Thanks for your patience.

Carafino


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Hey buddy, do you have a tracking number for me yet?

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: "adambator@yahoo.com" <adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

where getting it ready.

From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Hey bro, did they ship yet?

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: adambator@yahoo.com <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Tue, Feb 18, 2014 2:57:05 PM

We are shipping before march 15th. but usa will get it a bit earlier. i will just use march 15th as the date so in case something is a miss we are not putting the date back. but all is looking good. Mango


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Awesome! So what do you think while I have them in two weeks or sooner?

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: adambator@yahoo.com <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Tue, Feb 18, 2014 2:38:39 PM

Yes, I have 12 boards getting ready to go to florida. two are yours. I am in China picking up foot pads and straps. then return to bali and prepare shipping.


From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Hey bud, how's it looking on the shipping? Do you have a an e.t.a for me?

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Hello Adam:Thanks for the email, sorry to get back to you a day late, but Sunday today so I rested. The ink on your purchase order has barely dried. What has you so impatience?Is there some new propaganda on the internet that we are going to be late or something? I am trying to get your board out before end of Feb. Should not be an issue. We would have gotten the boards out already, but the Chinese New Year holiday delayed our delivery of foot straps and foot pads. This is what we are waiting for. Back to you. Carafino

From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Good to Go

Hey brother! Can you give me an idea of when i should receive the hydrofoils? I'm stoked bro, stoked!


On Sunday, January 26, 2014 9:56 AM, carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello Adam:How are you? I write to confirm to you that the transaction has been completed with split card billing. I am extremely consumed in my work, that is to say, getting everyone their boards complete. I want to express my thanks and gratitude for your business and if you have any questions at any time. Just reach out to me via email or sms me using my personal number.+6281237891512Best, Mango Carrion


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino 2-4-1 The Truth Exposed
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:41 pm 
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Thanks for the info. I had the same shit which ended up with him giving me death threats.

Unbelievable. Just fucking unbelievable that's all.

Get your money back and bight the bullet and buy a decent product from one of the many repurable suppliers in this market.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:57 pm 
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Yes wind_rider. I just bought an MHL Lift.


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 Post subject: Re: Carafino 2-4-1 The Truth Exposed
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:25 pm 
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OK, here are the rest of the communications. Eventually as you can see i lose my patience and start to toy with him. I tell him i don't want his piece of sh** products and i tell him that he will have to pay interest on the $1500 he borrowed from me to finance his scam. He says he is going to send people to my house to pick up the boards and i tell him he may only send a legitimate courier, he then says he will have someone from miami kiteboarding to pick it up. I called them and they knew nothing about it and said they don't sell foils.

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: adambator@yahoo.com <adambator@yahoo.com>; robertschulman@gmail.com <robertschulman@gmail.com>; shahriar_shahram@yahoo.com <shahriar_shahram@yahoo.com>;
Cc: legalcounsel@carafino.com <legalcounsel@carafino.com>;
Subject: Re: Possible solution to current situation
Sent: Fri, Jun 27, 2014 2:53:42 AM

Mr. Bator, Mr. Shuleman, Mr. Shahriar:

I suggest one option to the current situation. Mr. Robert and Mr. Shahriar can obtain the two boards that Mr. Bator is in possession now.

This will avoid further involving the police, resolving Mr. Bator situation and amicably release the boards from Mr. Bator to your custody for your orders.

If this is of interest to you or not of interest to you than please advise. If it pleases you to have the boards and finalize your order once and for all, I will follow up to conclude the matter forthwith.

Thank you,
Carafino



From: "adambator@yahoo.com" <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: THEFT OF OUR PRODUCT

how old are you 6? OK this is my last communication with you. One love.

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>; robertschulman@gmail.com <robertschulman@gmail.com>; shahriar_shahram@yahoo.com <shahriar_shahram@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: THEFT OF OUR PRODUCT
Sent: Fri, Jun 27, 2014 2:01:41 AM

MR. BATOR

YOU HAVE A TEMPORARY CREDIT ISSUED TO YOU BY YOUR CARD ISSUING BANK. YOU WILL BE DEBITED THESE FUNDS FROM YOUR ACCOUNT. WE WILL PRINT THESE EMAIL IN SUPPORT OF OUR CLAIM YOU ARE DEFRAUDING THE BANK AND CRIMINALLY STEALING THE PRODUCT.

CARRION



From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 9:30 AM
Subject: Re:

I already got my money back sucker :-)



From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>;
Cc: shahriar_shahram@yahoo.com <shahriar_shahram@yahoo.com>; robertschulman@gmail.com <robertschulman@gmail.com>; legalcounsel@carafino.com <legalcounsel@carafino.com>;
Subject: Re:
Sent: Thu, Jun 26, 2014 10:59:08 PM

Mr. Bator:

Thank you for the email.

Please provide us the name of your attorney forthwith. You have also indicated that you have filed a police report and have offered us the police report number. We are awaiting the number of the report.

If you do not respond with the police report file number or the name of your attorney. We are filing a theft report with the Fort Lauderdale police, criminal investigation unit, via fax and telephone on June 30, 2014.

You have received product from Carafino International by way of FEDEX, you have filed a dispute with the issuing credit card company in that you have not received the product and you are now extorting us, in the return of the product.

I suggest you strongly consider your choices wisely. We will prosecute you Mr. Bator. Make no mistake about it, I will personally fly to Florida and go to the District Attorney office and criminal investigation unit to hold you accountable to your indisputable written account of your actions and intentions.

I suggest you release the boards to the local kite surf school and await your credit from the bank.

If you do not return the product you will not receive a credit to your account and we will push for the authorities within the jurisdiction of the Fort Lauderdale criminal investigation division to file felony theft charges against you.

You have until Monday June 30, 2014 to comply or we will cease all communications with you and seek to prosecute you for theft, wire fraud, and extortion. We will also file a report with the Federal Bureau of Investigation against your crimes involving credit card fraud, interstate wire fraud, extortion and theft.

I suggest you consult with your attorney immediately or you return the boards to the carton and arrange with Mr. George of the local www.12kite.com kite school to pick up the carton. You will then receive a credit to your card in accordance with the procedures of Visa and Mastercard.


Regards,
Christopher M Carafino

President- Carafino Interntional, Inc. Hawaii, USA
+ 1 808 870 9073
+ 62 81237891512
P.O. 1182
Haiku, Hawaii
96708

www.carafino.com

From: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <info@carafino.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 8:07 PM
Subject: Re:

Considering that you basically borrowed $1500, from me to finance your business, you will have to pay interest to receive the boards. Stand by for legal docs from my attorney.

From: carafino <foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <adambator@yahoo.com>; legalcounsel@carafino.com <legalcounsel@carafino.com>;
Sent: Wed, Jun 25, 2014 11:11:19 PM

We have found a local kite school in your area that is willing to pick up the boards. Perhaps you know them,
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They are distributing foils of Carafino, therefore they are in your area and can service the pick up, repair the boards and use them for their school.

Regarding the police report, yes, please send it over so that we can provide it to our attorney and follow up accordingly.

If you do not have a report, a report number will suffice.

Carafino


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:25 am 
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Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.

When he goes to the FBI please let me know and I will be happy to talk to them on your behalf. He also owes me a large amount of money and your position that he should pay interest on your finds he held with no intention of supplying the goods is perfectly reasonable.

He is wanted for questioning in the UK, France and Italy to my knowledge for making death threats which carries severe penalties here and I am reliably informed he and his various alias's are on a list to be stopped at any EU boarder control he tries to pass. In France in particular there are many people he has also done that to who want to see him put in prision. He is also breaking a large number of EU laws relating to illegal importation of defective goods.


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