I started from a North Quad Bar, not a 5 lines bar. I converted a Quad Bar from 2 front lines safety release into a single line.Peert wrote:@ Vertical: I assume you have left the Y-split at exactly the same position as it was while being a 5 line bar? So quite high up? I used to have it like this at well.
If the ball cracks, it won't flag your kite. The kite will only flag if you have tension on only one line, without the ball you will still have tension on all 4 lines (unless you have an ultra long dangling safety line). It is there so you have one attachment point to both front lines, so you can use your depower strap. If there was no stopper ball, pulling the depower strap would only shorten one line. So worst case scenario, you will have one of your lines longer than the other, which will make the kite turn one way. Anyways Ozone uses a ball like that, so does Best and you can buy one from their dealer if that is a concern.Onda wrote: If the ball would crack under load, the relatively small knot (covered by the ball) would slide through the metal ring, wouldn´t it?
In that case you wouldn´t be able to return to the beach (continously flagged out kite).
My only concerns are the ring not being able to hold the load of the front line. The ball is the same type used in the Ozone bars and they seem to hold for them, as westozzy said before.Onda wrote:@ Vertical:
Your setup might function.
But I´m afraid the red stopper ball will not be strong enough to carry all the load of one front line vs. the metal ring.
Be reminded that this cheap plastic ball - in the 5th Element setup - only has to carry the load of the "loaded 5th line", which is very significantly lower than the full frontline load.
If the ball would crack under load, the relatively small knot (covered by the ball) would slide through the metal ring, wouldn´t it?
In that case you wouldn´t be able to return to the beach (continously flagged out kite). And if it would happen during a high jump you would fall out of the sky like a piece of lead.
It would be better to use a smaller diameter ring and a "proper" (= lasting and not line killing) thick knot instead of a small knot plus ball.
BUT: This knot mustn´t slide through the bar hole with any resistance, or alternatively with total resistance. The bar could get stuck at / behind this knot after releasing the kite, which might make it impossible to pull the bar back to you after a safety release.
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