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 Post subject: Re: Chrono or Lotus 12m Jumping and Hang
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:03 pm 
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Hey airsurfer, I wonder with your experience on the S3 12 m dlx kites you could help me with a problem? I've got that kite and it's great, or was great, but now I'm having some problems with front stall in gusty winds. It can be ok in reasonably steady winds, but sometimes in a gust, the front of the kite tips over and it falls to the water. Sometimes, I can correct by aggressively pulling on the steering line on the opposite side, but I wonder if there is some tuning I could do to make it right. Mixer was at zero, but then I adjusted C towards the bar by about 2.5 cm. That was gave me severe backstall and loss of power. I have reduced the center line length to try to correct for that, but haven't test flown it yet. Any thoughts on other things I could try? It's really a great kite.


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 Post subject: Re: Chrono or Lotus 12m Jumping and Hang
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:19 pm 
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Had a blast with my Chrono 12m yesterday in 16-20 knots wind.
Crazy lift and hangtime.
Try to upload video soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Chrono or Lotus 12m Jumping and Hang
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:35 pm 
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"S3 12 LTD when powered up in plus 20 knots is an insane jumping machine the height and power is comparable to a 7M C kite"

This is why I'm so curious the S3 12 was a great foil. I would love for someone to get their hands on a 12m Chrono that has had a S3 12 and take it for a test ride.


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 Post subject: Re: Chrono or Lotus 12m Jumping and Hang
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:36 pm 
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Bladesurfer wrote:
Had a blast with my Chrono 12m yesterday in 16-20 knots wind.
Crazy lift and hangtime.
Try to upload video soon.


That looks like some nice height. lol

whats that shit hanging down by your bar? Race trim line? Need to cut that shit;;;;;;

please get me some video (no slow motion).


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 Post subject: Re: Chrono or Lotus 12m Jumping and Hang
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:55 pm 
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No slomo i promise. But I usually hear that it looks like im in slomo from other kiters on the beach.
Try to upload it tomorrow...


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 Post subject: Re: Chrono or Lotus 12m Jumping and Hang
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:57 pm 
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Bladesurfer wrote:
No slomo i promise. But I usually hear that it looks like im in slomo from other kiters on the beach.
Try to upload it tomorrow...


If you don't mind me asking what are you other kites?


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 Post subject: Re: Chrono or Lotus 12m Jumping and Hang
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:07 pm 
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s1buell_wl wrote:
Bladesurfer wrote:
No slomo i promise. But I usually hear that it looks like im in slomo from other kiters on the beach.
Try to upload it tomorrow...


If you don't mind me asking what are you other kites?


Ozone Edge 9m -13 (selling)
C4 7m -12 (might sell)

Thinking of a Chrono 12m and Catalyst 8m combo.


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 Post subject: Re: Chrono or Lotus 12m Jumping and Hang
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:13 am 
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So the 12m is you biggest kite?

Thanks for the info, cant wait to see the video.


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 Post subject: Re: Chrono or Lotus 12m Jumping and Hang
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:39 am 
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DrLightWind wrote:
Any impression of the following to update my 12m SP3:
does the 12m Chrono having better low end, upwind and boosting,
than 12m Speed3 DLX for a light person like me :?:

the low end of my chrono 18 is better than the s3 21. me heavy and on twintip. the faster the board, the more will the chrono gain.
the chrono 12 will for sure have a better low end than the s3 12 dlx also for you as a light kiter. it will have noticable less grunt (static pull) which is good for light kiters. in light winds you will need to move the kite faster to get going. once you have just a little board speed the kite will perform.

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I see on the wind chart around 12 kn but it is probably much better than that especially with a mutant :idea:
DrLW

forget about wind charts on kite manufacturers websites.

airsurfer wrote:
...the S3 12 LTD when powered up in plus 20 knots is an insane jumping machine the height and power is comparable to a 7M C kite (fuel or vegas) in 35 knots. 30 foot plus jumps are easy. The reason for this in my opinion is a combination of turning speed triple depower and high aspect design...

i agree! that is the reason i had the s3 12 dlx for such a long time. it is a great kite! the high end is scaringly great and jumps are awesome when fully powered.
the kites with more ar and thinner profile will deliver those jumps in much less wind.

h.


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 Post subject: Re: Chrono or Lotus 12m Jumping and Hang
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:49 am 
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Bladesurfer wrote:
No slomo i promise. But I usually hear that it looks like im in slomo from other kiters on the beach.
Try to upload it tomorrow...



Yeh man sweet height buddy!


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