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 Post subject: Re: Fatality in Long Island, NY
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:00 am 
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robertovillate wrote:
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I just don't get it, why some people can't take 2 minutes (or even an hour) of their time to check or help another person in the water. If I see a kite go down and if it isn't relaunched within a minute or so I always go check, whether I have to go way downwind or way upwind. It just seems like the right thing to do...the only thing actually. Not to contradict myself (that we are on our own) but sometimes a few moments can make all the difference in the world during a water emergency.

sorry if i got off topic with this


And your gonna Continue to help other people.
Ya know Why ?

Ya might even Die one day,
because nobody will help Ya when you Need it ; but it ain't gonna matter,
because your a Good Guy, in a world full of Ass-(O)'s ! Sucks but that's the way it is !!



Time to go drink Beer with my Buddies ; the ones who will come get me when :
"i Need help" ! Sucks if You don't have a Few of them ! :(

Bille


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 Post subject: Re: Fatality in Long Island, NY
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:56 am 
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I haven't read anything that said it was a kiting accident, maybe I missed it, but all I read was that he was found deceased.

There is a difference between a kiting accident and a death that occurred while kiting. Not that one is less tragic or sad than another.

- Stafford


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 Post subject: Re: Fatality in Long Island, NY
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:02 pm 
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RIP...

I too am one that always kites alone. I am the only foil flyer in my area and past experience has taught me that i am better off alone , safety wise.


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 Post subject: Re: Fatality in Long Island, NY
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:56 pm 
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Bille wrote:
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... I hope we can learn from this unfortunate accident. Awful news all around.


Learn from an accident ?
YES --- Kiting Alone is NOT a Good idea ; and the "Why" should be taught in kite-school !!

Wasn't the guy that just died in the PNW ; wasn't he Also kiting Alone ?
And he wasn't even a Beginner !!

If you see a buddy go down, and he stays down for a while ; in a Lot of cases, Ya got
a few minutes to administer CPR in order to bring him back.

ME -- i just don't wanna get eaten by wild critters ,while i'm dying in the desert , somewhere
on a Mohave shore-line.




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Bille,
You might want to ditch your false sense of security. I'm sure there have been a lot more deaths when other kiters are present then not.

I personally believe if you aren't comfortable riding alone, then you should still be considered a student.

Yes, shit can go wrong.... But how is another kiter going to help in a deathloop situation?


I prefer being the only person out. If i had to rely on the douches at my beach to come save me, i'd be a dead man anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Fatality in Long Island, NY
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:02 am 
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droffats wrote:
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There is a difference between a kiting accident and a death that occurred while kiting. ...

- Stafford


And What would that be ?
He was found dead, and attached to a Kite ; what would you call That ??
Maybe if they find a bullet-hole in him ; then maybe you will have an argument.

Some of Ya are forgetting , that I'm the one who rides thermals up to 17,000-ft (5000M)
up in the air , on a HG or PG ; Ya wanna talk about being "Alone" some more ?

If your showing up to some kite spot , that has a bunch of schmucks Ya don't
know or like ; that would be the same as kiting Alone.
I Don't Do that ; i go with Friends. Any of you ever heard of a FRIEND ?
Apparently Not ; sucks being YOU. :(

I have a Lot more friends that fly a HG or PG, than i do kite boarders. I'm beginning
to see why ; you guys are a lot different. Even at Mohave , there is a Sharp contrast
between the kiters that i get along with, and the ones that i Don't ; probably the reason
i fly a glider, more than kite board , (A Lot more).

Bille


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 Post subject: Re: Fatality in Long Island, NY
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:59 am 
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Billie, whoever you are. Thanks for the laugh. You don't need friends because you like yourself a lot. Do you do that righty or lefty? Let's respect the deceased here and save the chest pounding for Facebook.


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 Post subject: Re: Fatality in Long Island, NY
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:15 am 
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Billie, the point Stafford was trying to make is the same as your dumbass gunshot theory. If Valtz died of a heart attack or gunshot then it would not really be a kite accident and it would not have mattered if he was kiting alone. Isn't Billie a girls name?


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 Post subject: Re: Fatality in Long Island, NY
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:06 am 
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AlterEgo wrote:
Billie, the point Stafford was trying to make is the same as your dumbass gunshot theory. If Valtz died of a heart attack or gunshot then it would not really be a kite accident and it would not have mattered if he was kiting alone. Isn't Billie a girls name?


I'm sorry that you Don't have the cognitive resources to realize , that if
he Did have a heart-attack while kite boarding "Alone" ; CPR most certainly, ( Could have)
brought him back , if administered with-in a few minutes
AND IF
he had bin kiting with a Buddy who knew How to give the life-saving technique !!

You spelt my user-name Wrong ; who's the Dumb-ass now ?

Bille


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 Post subject: Re: Fatality in Long Island, NY
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:51 am 
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Bille,

I didn't realize you were a paraglider..... thats so cool...and it definitely explains the pussyish attitude.
So you never paraglide without a buddy? You must like your friends much better than your sports......... sounds a little suspect to me????? I guess if you kite without your "buddies" then there is nobody there to help rub the sunscreen in. :naughty:

oh yeah.... 75% of my kiting is solo, as well as my base jumps


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 Post subject: Re: Fatality in Long Island, NY
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:14 am 
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This article says there have been15 financial executive deaths recently.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-21/goldman-managing-director-found-dead-apparent-kite-surfing-accident


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