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 Post subject: Rock-climbing style harness?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:21 pm 
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Was there an attempt to make rock-climbing style harness (with two shoulder straps and two leg straps)? I imagine it combined with vest its stability would make an ideal harness for many kiters.


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 Post subject: Re: Rock-climbing style harness?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:51 pm 
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Rock climbing harnesses don't have shoulder straps. I think there might be such a thing for very specialized applications, but 99% of all the rock climbing harnesses out there are waist harnesses with leg loops and no shoulder straps.

But anyway, I can't think of any benefit to having shoulder straps. Why do you think they would be useful?


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 Post subject: Re: Rock-climbing style harness?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:09 pm 
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My knowledge of rock climbing was based upon Big Bang Theory episode where Sheldon was climbing a wall at the mall :D There the harness is essentially an attachment of shoulder and leg straps
http://www.rei.com/product/847509/edelr ... rness-kids

Was Dakine Matrix harness discontinued due to lack of popularity? (This would refute the whole idea of combined impact-waist-seat harness).


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 Post subject: Re: Rock-climbing style harness?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:17 pm 
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I've never worn a rock climbing harness but can't imagine they ride up your crotch like a seat harness... Why don't we have more kite seat harnesses like rock claiming harnesses?

I think Jays was like that but I've never seen one.


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 Post subject: Re: Rock-climbing style harness?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:26 pm 
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The Edelrid harness is a child's harness. The reason for the shoulder straps is to shift the tie in point higher up on the body. A child's head is very heavy in comparison to their overall body weight until they are about 7-8 years old so if you put them in a regular harness, there is a high chance of them flipping upside down in it. You can also buy adult harnesses with shoulder straps, but they are usually found in the safety industry and are very bulky and heavy.

Climbing harnesses are not really designed to be weighted the entire time. You'd be surprised at how uncomfortable it is to just hang in one for 10 minutes, much less an hour long session. They are really designed to effectively catch a fall, not put your weight into for long periods of time. I used to wear mine while snow kiting and eventually bought a waist harness because it was a lot more comfortable.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:29 pm 
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I wear my old climbing harness all winter long for snowkiting. I love it I've been hanging and climbing harnesses for 20 years and feel that they're usually more comfortable then kite harnesses


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 Post subject: Re: Rock-climbing style harness?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:01 pm 
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matthepp wrote:
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I love it I've been hanging and climbing harnesses for 20 years and feel that they're usually more comfortable then kite harnesses


YEP ; and there's a Reason for that .

The leg-straps on my Dakine harness are 1 and 1/2 inch wide ( 38.1mm) ; now
look how wide the support is under the crotch, on this climbing harness i have
in in the shot below :

Bille


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 Post subject: Re: Rock-climbing style harness?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:13 pm 
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Ozone do a rock climbing style harness as their snowkite harness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNqMJC0lCpI


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 Post subject: Re: Rock-climbing style harness?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:53 pm 
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Bille, that is one bad ass picture. :thumb: ... Seriously. :thumb:


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 Post subject: Re: Rock-climbing style harness?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:50 am 
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What you are describing sounds a lot like a sailing trapeze harness:

http://www.mauriprosailing.com/us/product/RSGCL10.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwpvufBRCwzp_zyqfkhrcBEiQA8b-SHNIwFRzbDIbGELEK956S8RvRUztWa84gypJvIpVlkvkaAg5c8P8HAQ

Though looking at the price I wish I hadn't given mine away years ago. From memory I think mine promoted a more hunch backed stance than I use for kiting.


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