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Postby eree » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:33 am
do these guys pay for the injuries if some kiter dragged over this "tool"?
are they covered?
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Postby tautologies » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:53 am
Aw come on guys. Be supportive. I bet this is a fellow kiter that found a solution thinking there might be others that could benefit from it.
No need to go nuts
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Postby norcom » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:26 am
I don't know what the dimensions of that anchor are but I have this one and it has quite beefy:
http://www.amazon.com/Auger-Style-Earth ... B00901KQRC
The anchor part is 6" across, which is bigger than most anchors you can find at local stores. It's also 4' deep and even in loose sand takes quite a bit of work to screw all the way in. It's made out of very thick steel and I use a 3' breaker bar to screw it in.
They also have one that's 7" across and 5' deep.
http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/pr ... c6250.html
This is not a dog or an umbrella anchor. This is an anchor designed to hold down large tents in strong winds and is rated for 6000lbs. Though I'm sure not in sand but soil.
Personally, I switched to a punching bag that I fill with sand. If I screw up, the kite drags the bag and the weight is always there to slow it down. Definitely not as strong as that anchor. I've cut the top off the bag to make filling/emptying easier and if something happens the bag will lose sand and its projectile weight. It's also easier to drag whenever I need to move the anchor point due to tide/wind changes. I use a $30 punching bag from amazon that's very strong. Removed the chains and put some thick dyneema on it with a SS carabiner.
There are always drawbacks to self launching. I found the sandbag to be the best for me.
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Postby RedSky » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:30 pm
NYKiter wrote:Looks like the gate on the biner would be hard to open due to the interior being so small and taken up by the chic loop. Plus the length of line is too close to the ground causing the pilots to be on their knees to steer while tethered. Other than that its not bad...
I was worried too that the carabiner was going to be too small but as you can see there's a good half inch spare. The kitetool is as solid as. Order placed Friday, arrived today, Wednesday. Complementary bump for Zenith Kitewear.
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Postby Laughingman » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:51 pm
RedSky wrote:NYKiter wrote:Looks like the gate on the biner would be hard to open due to the interior being so small and taken up by the chic loop. Plus the length of line is too close to the ground causing the pilots to be on their knees to steer while tethered. Other than that its not bad...
I was worried too that the carabiner was going to be too small but as you can see there's a good half inch spare. The kitetool is as solid as. Order placed Friday, arrived today, Wednesday. Complementary bump for Zenith Kitewear.
How long is the the shaft? it looks much shorter in the picture then it does on the web page pictures..?
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Postby RedSky » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:18 am
Laughingman wrote:
How long is the the shaft? it looks much shorter in the picture then it does on the web page pictures..?
Yeah, after seeing the web picture I was expecting it to be a little longer too, but I guess it's as long as it needs to be at 24 inches overall, 23.5" excluding the handle.
My sand is hard-packed so I'm sure it will bite from the first inch. I don't know how it will perform on deep soft sand if that's your beach. All I know is, it has to be an improvement over my sledgehammer and iron pin technique or shoveling a quarter tonne of sand into a hippo bag. This thing is neat, light and compact.
My only concern with the kite launch tool is that it comes with a caution for it not to be used in winds above 23 knots! I was hoping to go a little beyond that. The KLT does look and feel unbreakable. I can't imagine it ever being pulled out of the sand or snapping, the force required would have to be huge!
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Postby Laughingman » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:41 pm
RedSky wrote:Laughingman wrote:
How long is the the shaft? it looks much shorter in the picture then it does on the web page pictures..?
Yeah, after seeing the web picture I was expecting it to be a little longer too, but I guess it's as long as it needs to be at 24 inches overall, 23.5" excluding the handle.
My sand is hard-packed so I'm sure it will bite from the first inch. I don't know how it will perform on deep soft sand if that's your beach. All I know is, it has to be an improvement over my sledgehammer and iron pin technique or shoveling a quarter tonne of sand into a hippo bag. This thing is neat, light and compact.
My only concern with the kite launch tool is that it comes with a caution for it not to be used in winds above 23 knots! I was hoping to go a little beyond that. The KLT does look and feel unbreakable. I can't imagine it ever being pulled out of the sand or snapping, the force required would have to be huge!
I use one of these but made of iron to lock my Dart (catamaran) on our beach... it is not coming out of the ground unless the weld that holds the blade onto the shaft breaks or the shaft breaks above the blade. If there is no material failure its not coming out.
23knots? seems strange... as the wind increases you use kites which produce less pull... seems odd to have a wind limit, especially that low. I would put a lull to gust disclaimer in before I put a high wind limit.
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Postby BWD » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:12 pm
Apparently this thing is made of stainless steel.
Awesome.
I have a friend that uses a steel building anchor with a short piece of pipe welded through the eye on top, very similar and cost only 1/3 as much. Eventually will rust but ok for brackish water.
Has worked in sand and mud and up to 30+ knots.
One time he put it into the bottom (with a float and line attached) in 1.5m water, where we had to water launch in gusty wind in front of a seawall with houses and trees a few meters back from it.
I set a sandbag anchor twice as far out, since I was afraid my anchor would drag, that was a pain.
Not likely with an anchor made to hold down a shed in a hurricane.
But still, caution and common sense needed to use it.
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Postby badgb21 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:53 pm
I use a similar Auger to these shown, with a snug piece of wooden dowel for a handle.
I can't tell you how many times I've caught my skin (between thumb and forefinger) between the handle and the Auger. A single piece of stainless, looks painless!
I agree the webbing needs to be longer.
Can anyone confirm the length of the KLT?
Thanks
norcom wrote:I don't know what the dimensions of that anchor are but I have this one and it has quite beefy:
http://www.amazon.com/Auger-Style-Earth ... B00901KQRC
The anchor part is 6" across, which is bigger than most anchors you can find at local stores. It's also 4' deep and even in loose sand takes quite a bit of work to screw all the way in. It's made out of very thick steel and I use a 3' breaker bar to screw it in.
They also have one that's 7" across and 5' deep.
http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/pr ... c6250.html
This is not a dog or an umbrella anchor. This is an anchor designed to hold down large tents in strong winds and is rated for 6000lbs. Though I'm sure not in sand but soil.
Personally, I switched to a punching bag that I fill with sand. If I screw up, the kite drags the bag and the weight is always there to slow it down. Definitely not as strong as that anchor. I've cut the top off the bag to make filling/emptying easier and if something happens the bag will lose sand and its projectile weight. It's also easier to drag whenever I need to move the anchor point due to tide/wind changes. I use a $30 punching bag from amazon that's very strong. Removed the chains and put some thick dyneema on it with a SS carabiner.
There are always drawbacks to self launching. I found the sandbag to be the best for me.
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Postby RedSky » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:40 am
badgb21 wrote:
Can anyone confirm the length of the KLT?
Thanks
Hope this helps. The picture isn't too clear. Taken with an old GoPro.
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