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Re: The Monjet Ninox

Postby Bille » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:40 am

joriws wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:14 pm
Sorry Bille, I am not the rider but the videographer.
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Still really COOL !!

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Re: The Monjet Ninox

Postby Europ2 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:33 pm

stefarius wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:39 pm
Hope Ozone starts developing this technic in their snowkite series.
Maybe a Hybrid. :naughty:
Gin has just released the Shaman. Very stable and forgiving using a mix of mono-skin and cells
Wingtip instability during turns corrected with introduction of 2 open cells per tip.
A speed system with a ring offers a large depower.
Hopefully, a water model with closed cells soon.... :D

http://ginkites.com/product/shaman-snowkite-freeride

Tested in this vid: Red 9 and Yellow 6 sqm. The bar is the Gin Iced Bar



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Re: The Monjet Ninox

Postby borist » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:33 pm

The shape looks cleaner than Peak

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Re: The Monjet Ninox

Postby Regis-de-giens » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:08 pm

I suppose that thanks to the closed cells at the wings of the shaman, we can hope better L/D ratio than the peak, hence better speed and lift.
Also hope that the long-waiting Ninox is better on this point
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Re: The Monjet Ninox

Postby stefarius » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:16 pm

Europ2 wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:33 pm
stefarius wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:39 pm
Hope Ozone starts developing this technic in their snowkite series.
Maybe a Hybrid. :naughty:
Gin has just released the Shaman. Very stable and forgiving using a mix of mono-skin and cells
Wingtip instability during turns corrected with introduction of 2 open cells per tip.
A speed system with a ring offers a large depower.
Hopefully, a water model with closed cells soon.... :D

http://ginkites.com/product/shaman-snowkite-freeride

Tested in this vid: Red 9 and Yellow 6 sqm. The bar is the Gin Iced Bar


Nice, can't wait to test them.

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Re: The Monjet Ninox

Postby kitexpert » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:06 am

Hard to believe turning of the Shaman is very much similar to foil kites. Single skins react faster (a bit like LEI's), and because of the less inertia and more drag they peak their power early. Foils are slow at the beginning (inertia), but if given time to accelerate (enough room to fly) they reach higher speeds and give more power. Static pull is much stronger in single skins though, they can sit much deeper in WW without backstalling.

I like how Shaman looks and it has quite a lot AR and panels also.

I know Peaks. Their disadvantages are not so smooth power delivery (a bit on-off depower) and boosting with them is almost impossible. Also bar feel is not very good, sheeted in it is quite heavy and it feels flapping of the kite when it happens. But I don't know how much better Peak3 is than previous models.

I didn't end up make my own ss a hybrid like Monjet but just a relatively simple single skin kite. I managed to do some things/details better than before so I'm cautiously optimistic :wink:

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Re: The Monjet Ninox

Postby Europ2 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:13 pm

kitexpert wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:06 am
I didn't end up make my own ss a hybrid like Monjet but just a relatively simple single skin kite. I managed to do some things/details better than before so I'm cautiously optimistic :wink:
Like Pan Tau software on another thread, single skin (SS) SW do exist. This one hasn't been updated since 2015, however, very promisong for our use... Who will be the first to test .... :D
https://sourceforge.net/projects/singleskin/

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