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BudhaNl
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Re: 2018 Naish kites

Postby BudhaNl » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:20 am

I was referring to a possible difference between the '17&'18 Pivots Stefarius, theoretical too as I haven't flown the '18.

I'm 10kg less than you and like the '17 9m in those winds in waves, that size does drift.

Edit: so how about some more experience with the 2018 Naish kites!

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Re: 2018 Naish kites

Postby Osprey1 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:14 pm

I love my 2018 Dash kites. I have the 14 and 10m.
The kites boost and unhook really nicely for being allrounders. Definitely an improvement over the Park as the kite provides more feedback and feels a bit more solid. Moreover I can switch from my twintip to my foil when the wind gets light and they’ll stay flying, which I couldn’t always do with my old C kites.

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Re: 2018 Naish kites

Postby tautologies » Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:33 am

BudhaNl wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:20 am
I was referring to a possible difference between the '17&'18 Pivots Stefarius, theoretical too as I haven't flown the '18.

I'm 10kg less than you and like the '17 9m in those winds in waves, that size does drift.

Edit: so how about some more experience with the 2018 Naish kites!
I can't speak really specifically to difference. I have the new 11 and it rocks (I rode the old 11 about 8 months ago). I've used it a few times in waves and jumping on a directional. The wind was varying a lot and the wind on shore to side on.

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Re: 2018 Naish kites

Postby Pellesurf » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:29 am

Does anyone know if there is a big / noticeable difference between Pivot 2015 and 2017/18. I've been riding the 2015 Pivot 7.9 and 12 for three seasons now and think it's perfect and does not understand how it can be even better. I have ordered 2018 Pivot 9, 12 for freeriding and foiling. Have also ordered a Slash 7a for strapless waveriding and is very curious if there is a big difference between Pivot 7 and Slash 7 in waveriding

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Re: 2018 Naish kites

Postby Strekke » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:27 am

Osprey1 wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:14 pm
I love my 2018 Dash kites. I have the 14 and 10m.
The kites boost and unhook really nicely for being allrounders. Definitely an improvement over the Park as the kite provides more feedback and feels a bit more solid. Moreover I can switch from my twintip to my foil when the wind gets light and they’ll stay flying, which I couldn’t always do with my old C kites.
They are amazing kites, but like to be ridden powered up, so I wouldn't say that the Dash is good for foil-winds. My 10 hindenburgs when not babysitted at 12 in light winds while foiling. 13-15 knots on the foil is sweet though, but don't drop it in deep water because relaunch in those winds can be tricky... Apart from that, sick kites indeed.

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Re: 2018 Naish kites

Postby Dirk » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:40 am

Pellesurf wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:29 am
Does anyone know if there is a big / noticeable difference between Pivot 2015 and 2017/18. I've been riding the 2015 Pivot 7.9 and 12 for three seasons now and think it's perfect and does not understand how it can be even better. I have ordered 2018 Pivot 9, 12 for freeriding and foiling. Have also ordered a Slash 7a for strapless waveriding and is very curious if there is a big difference between Pivot 7 and Slash 7 in waveriding
I have ridden all years of the Pivot and I am on the 2018 now. Similar set up to you: 8/11 Pivot and 5/7 Slash (both 2018). For 2017 I had a 6m Pivot and 7m Slash but rode the Slash only a few times. Both kites pretty much overlapped in their windrange. I think that is one difference, that the Pivot is somewhat more powerful, as it has a more open arc. I believe that the Slash turns quicker in the same size and it feels a bit more "relaxed" so you can focus on your waveriding. Jumping the Pivot is better (I ride strapped) but Slash was not bad. I will try out the Slash this time a lot more to see if it is good with a TT on high winds as well.

I did not feel huge differences between the different years of the Pivot but I never rode them side by side, so it is hard to tell. Anyway, the 2018 is great, rode my 8m now really powered up with TT and in mid to lower winds with SB. Really versatile. You can also nicely tune it by using the 24m or the 20m bar.

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Re: 2018 Naish kites

Postby BudhaNl » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:50 pm

I didn't see much difference between '15&'16 Pivots but the '17 I just got is quite different. It's smoother and has a bigger windrange. I wasn't considering changing my 7m '16 but after the experiences with the '17 9m I am seriously contemplating just that. Of course imho ymmv etc.

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Re: 2018 Naish kites

Postby Pellesurf » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:41 pm

BudhaNl wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:50 pm
I didn't see much difference between '15&'16 Pivots but the '17 I just got is quite different. It's smoother and has a bigger windrange. I wasn't considering changing my 7m '16 but after the experiences with the '17 9m I am seriously contemplating just that. Of course imho ymmv etc.

It sounds almost too good to be true, but it's amazing if 2017/18 is more smother and has even bigger windrange than 2015/16 which I already think is amazing.

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Re: 2018 Naish kites

Postby BudhaNl » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:46 pm

Pellesurf wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:41 pm
BudhaNl wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:50 pm
I didn't see much difference between '15&'16 Pivots but the '17 I just got is quite different. It's smoother and has a bigger windrange. I wasn't considering changing my 7m '16 but after the experiences with the '17 9m I am seriously contemplating just that. Of course imho ymmv etc.

It sounds almost too good to be true, but it's amazing if 2017/18 is more smother and has even bigger windrange than 2015/16 which I already think is amazing.
I know, it sounds like it's right out of the marketing brochure :D . It is however my personal experience with that kite.

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Re: 2018 Naish kites

Postby tautologies » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:07 am

BudhaNl wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:50 pm
I didn't see much difference between '15&'16 Pivots but the '17 I just got is quite different. It's smoother and has a bigger windrange. I wasn't considering changing my 7m '16 but after the experiences with the '17 9m I am seriously contemplating just that. Of course imho ymmv etc.
Yeah..i agree. Its also the advantage of having a few years to refine the kites. The 2018 11 poi it is such a tight kite both for strapped and strapless riding.


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