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Re: How to make a kite

Postby downunder » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:02 am

john a wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:04 pm
LiquidXtasy wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:30 pm
Most kites come from a factory in China, and all they do is change a few things to make them for different brands. Core is out of Germany though, and maybe a few other brands from other areas.
Core is made in Sri Lanka. Same factory as North and Eleveight. Crazy Fly is actually the only one producing kites in Europe. But then again that factory has less experience then the big ones.

Not exactly how production works. A lot of work for the brand, it´s not like there is a standard kite that each brand tweek small changes to to call their own. Thousands of different prototypes, testing, tuning, simulation and drawing on the computer. Factory only sew what the designer say, and the brand buy the material ahead.
It´s like saying all houses are the same with small changes. Undermining all the work of architects.
Generally if you go in a meeting with a Chinese factory, they have different specialties, but you have to give them every single little detail to get it right. There is so much work getting things right. Everybody who have produced in the east know you have to specify everything, or they will change small detail to save cost and increase their own profit, even with a penny.

Just the leading edge is 200 pieces sewed together, and thats different for every model and size. So imagine all that work! Kind of explain why kites cost a bit...
Maybe you need to rephrase that in bold? :?:
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Btw, the biggest mistake people make is that you need all this bits and pieces on a kite. I'm skeptical about this and not afraid of making a kite for myself. Infact, I would say that about 50-100 hours is needed t get the first one done.

A second one would be probably heaps better, with only 50hrs. Third one absolutely possible in 30-40 hrs.

D.
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Re: How to make a kite

Postby john a » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:31 am

Faxie wrote:
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Core has it's own factory in SriLanka
No they don´t, they produce at Aqua Dynamics. Owners name is Frank, he is a funny guy.
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Re: How to make a kite

Postby downunder » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:33 am

^
Maybe you also need to rephrase, that only some models are made in here and there?

And, no, the LE has no 200 parts. Unless Eleveight doubled the number of parts? :wink:

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Re: How to make a kite

Postby john a » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:44 am

downunder wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:33 am
^
Maybe you also need to rephrase, that only some models are made in here and there?

And, no, the LE has no 200 parts. Unless Eleveight doubled the number of parts? :wink:
Could be a wrong quote from industry people from me, english is not my first language nor the guy who told me about production. Could for sure be mixing up in my memory. Heard that number, could be the whole kite, but was told LE takes the most time at least. Thought I heard, but your pic for sure is not right either. Lots of parts missing, just looking at it to seconds I See a lot missing... But no point in counting, not the point. And who really cares about the exact number on different models. You get the point right...?? There is a lot of manual work into it! And so many small pieces. Your picture actually is great as it show that there is a lot of pieces. Material cost, and more hours of work, especially LE, has increased the prices on kites since we started out kiting. And even if they try to cut cost, it´s not easy producing the quality and performance. Manual work will still taking a lot of time, and as we do want the workers to get payed decent, it´s natural that the price is high on kites.

Never said all kites are made here or there! Come on! But Core do not own the factory in Sri Lanka, but they do have production there. Best used to use to different factories, so even if one factory should have a fire or an excitant, they would still be in business. One model in one and one in another. Don´t know those details about Core though.

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Re: How to make a kite

Postby sabraxas » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:41 pm

LiquidXtasy wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:38 am

Just because a bunch of Indians are making their products doesn't mean their products come from India. Their original products come from Germany
Uff... "A bunch of indians...".
I guess you got the customized original 100% germany Core kite. It come with swastika cross, doesnt it?

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Re: How to make a kite

Postby LiquidXtasy » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:32 pm

windmaker wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:50 am
LiquidXtasy wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:38 am
Faxie wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:50 am


Ok I just did. Now what?

Core is from Germany, that's where the HQ is. That's where they design the stuff. But the kites are made in Sri Lanka. There are 3 factories there if I'm not mistaken. The Zian factory, GSLanka (mostly North) and another one (also from North Sails) that does Core, North, Best, Eleveight, and some small brands.
Just because a bunch of Indians are making their products doesn't mean their products come from India. Their original products come from Germany, just like it says on the front of their website, just like it says on front of their facebook, and the countless other times it's on the internet. You can read right?
In the video all the workers in the factory are Indian... Are you saying they are located in a factory somewhere in Germany?
They probably are.
sabraxas wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:41 pm
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Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:38 am

Just because a bunch of Indians are making their products doesn't mean their products come from India. Their original products come from Germany
Uff... "A bunch of indians...".
I guess you got the customized original 100% germany Core kite. It come with swastika cross, doesnt it?
Implying that I'm racist because I said "A bunch of Indians?" Get out of here with that stupidity.

What a dumb comment.

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Re: How to make a kite

Postby dswebb » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:45 pm

LiquidXtasy wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:32 pm
sabraxas wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:41 pm
LiquidXtasy wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:38 am

Just because a bunch of Indians are making their products doesn't mean their products come from India. Their original products come from Germany
Uff... "A bunch of indians...".
I guess you got the customized original 100% germany Core kite. It come with swastika cross, doesnt it?

Implying that I'm racist because I said "A bunch of Indians?" Get out of here with that stupidity.

What a dumb comment.
I think referring to a bunch of Sri Lankans as Indians was all the implication you needed.

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Re: How to make a kite

Postby sabraxas » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:48 pm

LiquidXtasy wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:32 pm


Implying that I'm racist because I said "A bunch of Indians?" Get out of here with that stupidity.

What a dumb comment.
With all your comments you seem to have problems that a bunch of indians construct a german design.

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Re: How to make a kite

Postby sabraxas » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:00 pm

A "bunch of Indians" is a very stupid and disdainfull way of describing highly skilled Sri Lankan craftsmen who are able to build high quality Core kites.

Yes, you sound "almost" racist.

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Re: How to make a kite

Postby Faxie » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:04 pm

john a wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:31 am
Faxie wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:40 pm
Core has it's own factory in SriLanka
No they don´t, they produce at Aqua Dynamics. Owners name is Frank, he is a funny guy.
Yeah I was mistaken. Rectified it in a later post. I know GSLanka, but didn't know the name of the other factory.

But Core kites are sure as hell not made in Germany :rollgrin:


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