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airsurfer
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Re: Moses 2018

Postby airsurfer » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:25 pm

alright guys much respect for your skills and commitment but it's getting way too cold on this forum ;) so here are some videos with the Moses 633 Onda and 97cm mast in some warmer waters using Ozone Reo 6M. I think the Onda will be my main foil for most conditions. Unfortunately I can't seem to figure out how to add better quality videos here

https://youtu.be/rXBytK8R9aY

https://youtu.be/TXTC7RIBBBI
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Re: Moses 2018

Postby Flag53 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:32 pm

Lovely looking water , where was it filmed ?

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby grigorib » Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:34 am

airsurfer wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:25 pm
alright guys much respect for your skills and commitment but it's getting way too cold on this forum ;) so here are some videos with the Moses 633 Onda and 97cm mast in some warmer waters using Ozone Reo 6M.
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What are your other wings?
Is mast position (or stance) any different compared to position/stance with other wings?
What makes 633 the main one?

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby grigorib » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:01 pm

Ahead of Slingshot it's Crazyfly now offering 101/558/330 and 91/550/325 Moses 2018 foils branded as theirs!

An easy way to beat it for Slingshot is to offer 71cm mast, 2018 fuselage and 590 wing and 633 setup.

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby airsurfer » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:33 pm

I just noticed that the 330 and 325 stabilizers have the same hole pattern as the 483 stabilizer. I'm wondering if anyone has tried or has an opinion on using the 325 or 330 stab with the 633 wing

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby grigorib » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:52 pm

airsurfer wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:33 pm
I just noticed that the 330 and 325 stabilizers have the same hole pattern as the 483 stabilizer. I'm wondering if anyone has tried or has an opinion on using the 325 or 330 stab with the 633 wing
Hole distance is the same but surface curve is not - I tried to mount it out of curiosity the day I got 633 setup :)
I don't really care if I need to have another stabilizer, but a different fuselage which is not light is a bummer.

I hope so much that Moses will come with a wing much wider than 132m of 590 (and possibly longer), mountable on standard kiting fuselage. Just making 590 tricker, more arrow-headed, and shovel-headed.

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby Horst Sergio » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:53 pm

Frank Rosin wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:16 pm
To get a taste of it with the 633 a full length fuselage won't hurt too much I would think?
When I tried with other wings before of course I got interested by the new challenge, but what I do not really understand yet is what has been described before about much lower drag and what benefit that should provide?
Especially when using bigger surface area (more drag) wings, compared to very low drag high-aspect ones... But maybe it is the same as with bikes, I clearly prefer two wheels.
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For the first ride you don't need to cut the fuselage for sure, for long term, full performance and lowest risk, it is a clear recomendation.
If you don't see the advantage of lower drag, just keep the wing protection cover on in the water ... and you will experience how a normal two wing foil feels for me everytime I try to go back.
Lower drag at low speed is the point. The drag of high aspect race foils is not so much worse, but the starting speed is, which requires -> bigger boards, .. high aspect wings -> longer struts, ... bigger, heavier, sharper = more dangerous = less freedom

Don't do that ;-) .
Last days I don't know how high jumping, but enough to perform nice complete downloops with flying landings and an high unmeant hands of front foot off, with the foil dirctly over my head touching the lines, balancing with one foot ... (similar as on my user pic)

On my old racefoil both was and would have been a scary and a extremly scary situation.

With the mono, no stabis, no edges, no problems, just do what you want, free move. :wink:

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby Frank Rosin » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:14 pm

To each their own I guess.

I am only interested in stabless if it has to offer anything to me when riding strapless.
I will find out.

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby gmb13 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:39 pm

The 633 is my favourite strapless freeride wing at the moment. It makes all manoeuvres super easy. If you want to learn to tack and gybe this is the wing for that.
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Re: Moses 2018

Postby grigorib » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:02 am

gmb13 wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:39 pm
The 633 is my favourite strapless freeride wing at the moment
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Gunnar
Gunnar,
What is the board in the picture?
Are you riding 633 with 61cm mast?


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