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sweisburd
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Naish Monarch 142 or Naish Stomp 138

Postby sweisburd » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:21 pm

Hello every one:
I would like to buy a new Naish board, but I´m not sure which board suits better for me.
I´m an intermediate kiter, starting to unhook, I kite in very changeable conditions, choppy waters with lots of wind, sometimes very low wind, because I kite in a river with a lot of current. I also kite in the sea, once or twice a year.
I weight 92 kg.
My doubts are if it is better for my go to the Naish Monarch 142, or the Stomp 138. I don´t have the posibility to buy another boards in my country, for now.
What do you think about it?
Thank you
SW

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Re: Naish Monarch 142 or Naish Stomp 138

Postby runner1 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:55 am

Are you planning on using it with boots or straps?

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Gonzolinho
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Re: Naish Monarch 142 or Naish Stomp 138

Postby Gonzolinho » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:31 am

I compare the 2018 models now, as the Monarch got changed quite a bit.
The Stomp has the most rocker of all Naish TTs. So with your weight and Lowend - forget it.
The Monarch is much more allround.For heavy unhooked landings it might be slightly harder though the crazy channeling in the bottom helps here, too.
I found the Stomp quite heavy, too. For highwind blasting in choppy water the Stomp was a dream ... but only there. It is quite slow, so you maintain in control.
The Monarch is a lot quicker so in highwind you will also reach some scary pace. :cool2:

I would take the Monarch 138 though. The 142 is only 4cm longer. The width is the same. Don´t let yourself get fooled by the marketing bloat.
Naish uses the same wood core for all their TT boards and they are only 42cm in width. If you don´t belive me - go to your local Naish store and measure it. Same with the Stomp and all the other boards.
You will also sell the 138x42 version a lot easier than the 142cm one. I weigh 105kg and the 138 is enough for me.

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Re: Naish Monarch 142 or Naish Stomp 138

Postby sweisburd » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:06 am

Thank you very much for all the advices! I will use straps. I think i'll stay with the Monarch 142. I know that the proper.board is the 138 but it is out of stock!

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Re: Naish Monarch 142 or Naish Stomp 138

Postby runner1 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:45 am

I would be wary of the 142 Monarch in straps, the 2017 felt too big for me using straps at 100kg. Is the Stomp really that bad upwind?

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Re: Naish Monarch 142 or Naish Stomp 138

Postby Ludmil » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:33 pm

runner1 wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:45 am
I would be wary of the 142 Monarch in straps, the 2017 felt too big for me using straps at 100kg. Is the Stomp really that bad upwind?
Not at all.
I find some statements exaggerated. Monarch is better in some areas while Stomp in others, just a different boards for a different types of riding.
I'd recommend Stomp for boots, Monarch for straps. According to me, 142 would be quite ok for the OPs weight. Stomp at 138 would be small even with straps...
L.

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Re: Naish Monarch 142 or Naish Stomp 138

Postby runner1 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:59 am

Gonzolinho,

Just out of interest, what are the differences between the 17 and 18 Monarchs? I liked in the shop and they appeared superficially the same

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Re: Naish Monarch 142 or Naish Stomp 138

Postby Gonzolinho » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:09 am

runner1 wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:59 am
Gonzolinho,

Just out of interest, what are the differences between the 17 and 18 Monarchs? I liked in the shop and they appeared superficially the same
The core has been thinned out, as the 2017 model was a bit too stiff for most and also the 2018 version should have a flatter rocker line.
But due to production tolerances (called "springback" in board production) depending on qualities of the wood cores you have easiliy 0,5cm difference in rocker lines in the same model. At least I had this and also know the problems from the production side.
Same outline of both models though. Look closely and you will see the difference

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Re: Naish Monarch 142 or Naish Stomp 138

Postby sweisburd » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:49 pm

Finally I went for the Monarch 142. I tested it last sunday in winds between 20 to 40 knots. It was very gusty and I really enjoy the board. It surpassed my expectations!
The board do exactely what I want, I was always in control even when the winds picks up suddenly! It´s a very lively board, fun, but always do what you want to do!
Speed, and jumps are great! I´ve never felt the board was a big board.
Thank you very much for all your advices!

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Re: Naish Monarch 142 or Naish Stomp 138

Postby Ludmil » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:55 pm

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