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Re: Cabrinha Moto - new Kite 2019

Postby SaltWaterDog » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:40 pm

Cool scoop. Thanks! I’m a broken record with respect to progression kites. Apart from kite schools there’s really no point in getting one. Most of the big brands provide good freeride/all-round kites so accessible that progression kites are basically made redundant.

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Re: Cabrinha Moto - new Kite 2019

Postby danidr » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:27 am

kite252 wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:18 pm
So I have a little inside scoop on the Moto from people I know at Cabrinha ;) Like some of you said the launch isn't until Aug 14th so hopefully this doesn't get deleted, but it is built to be a high performance 3 strut kite like Saltwaterdog said, not a beginner kite like the Radar. To me it felt like a cross between Cabrinha's Switchblade/FX and even the Drifter a little. (yes I got to ride it!!!) It has more power than the drifter and FX but turns fast like them (as a 3 strut kite as well) and has the jumping and hangtime of the switchblade. ( I rode a 9m when it was blowing at 20-25) The speed actually caught me a little off guard it was so fast. From what I have heard on the inside Cabrinha isn't going to have a beginner specific kite replacing the Radar. I think people who like the Nexus, Bandit etc would like this kite... I agree droffats, not sure what Cabrinha is planning on doing for beginner kites, maybe nothing, but seems like most schools don't use beginner kites anymore
All good but would you call it...... a game changer? :P

Jokes aside, have you tried the bar? I'm very happy with the bar since 2016, only issue I have is the knot that get's stuck when going into the tube when flagging the kite, which wears real quick and is dangerous if it tears and breaks since the kite flies away.

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Re: Cabrinha Moto - new Kite 2019

Postby Kamikuza » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:52 am

danidr wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:27 am

Jokes aside, have you tried the bar? I'm very happy with the bar since 2016, only issue I have is the knot that get's stuck when going into the tube when flagging the kite, which wears real quick and is dangerous if it tears and breaks since the kite flies away.
2018 bar has a bearing or some other friction-lowering device in the BTB manual swivel, so untwisting the lines is much easier. Can't comment on the tube, sorry.

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Re: Cabrinha Moto - new Kite 2019

Postby danidr » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:59 am

Kamikuza wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:52 am
danidr wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:27 am

Jokes aside, have you tried the bar? I'm very happy with the bar since 2016, only issue I have is the knot that get's stuck when going into the tube when flagging the kite, which wears real quick and is dangerous if it tears and breaks since the kite flies away.
2018 bar has a bearing or some other friction-lowering device in the BTB manual swivel, so untwisting the lines is much easier. Can't comment on the tube, sorry.
Yeah, that's been there since the 2015 I believe. The problem is not untwisting the lunes, but the flag line gets stuck on the entrance to the tube if you release or just want to extract a piece of the line to examine it... it passes through the tube entrance by force and every time you do this a piece of the line goes away, after very few times the line is frayed enough that I wouldn't trust it too much...

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Re: Cabrinha Moto - new Kite 2019

Postby Kamikuza » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:49 am

If that's true re. the swivel, then the 2017 ones didn't work -- very stiff to unspin.

I've never noticed the tube problems, sorry.

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Re: Cabrinha Moto - new Kite 2019

Postby Cab Driver » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:30 pm

danidr wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:27 am
kite252 wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:18 pm
Jokes aside, have you tried the bar? I'm very happy with the bar since 2016, only issue I have is the knot that get's stuck when going into the tube when flagging the kite, which wears real quick and is dangerous if it tears and breaks since the kite flies away.
Some internal bits on the system were redesigned in 2017 and the knot is smaller allowing a more consistently smooth transition through the polyurethane tube during flagging.

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Re: Cabrinha Moto - new Kite 2019

Postby danidr » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:09 pm

Cab Driver wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:30 pm
danidr wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:27 am
kite252 wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:18 pm
Jokes aside, have you tried the bar? I'm very happy with the bar since 2016, only issue I have is the knot that get's stuck when going into the tube when flagging the kite, which wears real quick and is dangerous if it tears and breaks since the kite flies away.
Some internal bits on the system were redesigned in 2017 and the knot is smaller allowing a more consistently smooth transition through the polyurethane tube during flagging.
This might be true for a new bar on the first couple of uses but after a few sessions it's pretty much the same. I have the 2016 and 2018 bar. The new 2018 is already exhibiting the problem after some 10 sessions. Inside the little plastic stopper, the union of the two lines gets squashed so much that it makes a sort of thick pancake that doesn't like to go inside the tube. I take care of my bar and make sure it's not sandy and leave it in a bucket for a while every couple of sessions, I don't see sand blocking it or anything similar.

If the cons of fixing this affect the ergonomics or performance of the bar, then it's fine, just ship one or two extra flag lines with the bar so we can change it when it wears down. On my 2016 bar it got real bad, so I asked Cabrinha and they told me it's my fault, two local sponsored riders told me huh?, obviously cause they don't really flag the kite or care that much about equipment care (they get new stuff anyways). Thankfully my dealer even acknowledged the problem, was aware of what I was talking about and sent me a replacement line immediately.

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Re: Cabrinha Moto - new Kite 2019

Postby Gonzolinho » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:42 pm

kite252 wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:18 pm
........... It has more power than the drifter and FX but turns fast like them (as a 3 strut kite as well) and has the jumping and hangtime of the switchblade...........
Well, that would be a real gamechanger! :cool2:
Is this your impression, or the marketing blah?
More power than FX but same turning? Then I suppose they will get rid of the FX as nobody will need it anymore.....?
And then the same hangtime as the Switchblade, too?
Sounds too good to be true, sorry mate

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Re: Cabrinha Moto - new Kite 2019

Postby Faxie » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:34 am

Gonzolinho wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:42 pm
kite252 wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:18 pm
........... It has more power than the drifter and FX but turns fast like them (as a 3 strut kite as well) and has the jumping and hangtime of the switchblade...........
Well, that would be a real gamechanger! :cool2:
Is this your impression, or the marketing blah?
More power than FX but same turning? Then I suppose they will get rid of the FX as nobody will need it anymore.....?
And then the same hangtime as the Switchblade, too?
Sounds too good to be true, sorry mate
Sounds a bit fishy... so only advantages over the FX and SB? Why need those models then?
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Re: Cabrinha Moto - new Kite 2019

Postby foilholio » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:51 am

Makes you wonder what drives marketing men? Money, power, the fact they can screw one over their fellow man?


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