these range seems odd to me....I'm 66 KG and holds the Sp3 19m (not mine, borrowed) easily in 15 kts with a 130x39 tt (well powered but not overpowered)koma wrote:I'm an 80kg rider on a 134x42 Nobile NHP
You'll have to add a bit for your additional 20kg on top of my weight... but this should give you an idea of the range they've got. In terms of the sweet spot of each kite i'd happily use it in the powered and lit range, and i'd be wanting to put it down in the overpowered range. That said i'm quite fussy about which kite i'm on and will always prefer to use a smaller faster kite without any depower pulled than a bigger kite with depower.
Flysurfer Speed 3 19m Standard
Planing in 6 kn
Powered at 7-8 kn
Lit at 9-10kn
Overpowered at 12-13kn
Flysurfer Speed 3 15m Standard
Planing in 8 kn
Powered at 10 kn
Lit at 12-14 kn
Overpowered at 16-17kn
Flysurfer Speed 3 12m Deluxe
Planing in 11 kn
Powered at 14 kn
Lit at 18 kn
Overpowered at ~22-24 kn
I was out yesterday with a guy who just bought a Wainman Big Mama 15m and he's very happy with it. He's a bigger solidly built guy that i'd guess would be about 105kg and had most of the depower pulled in whilst i was riding my Torch 12m in ~17-18kn. I personally use an old Slingshot Fuel 15m for my lightwind duties, but i think it's time to ditch it and get something lightwind specific. Of all the kites i've tried i'd personally choose the Flysurfer 15m standard for my weight... so the 19m might be the kite of choice for you.
Davince,davince wrote:Most will recommend to consider a good big tube kite (like Zephyr or deltas or bows). I still do consider them, and I am sure their good. But my instinct tells me that a foil like the speed must perform better for me when reaching the critical 10-12knts.
Please fire on. Share your comments, I appreciate. I maybe sound like I already made my mind but it is not so. A new kite is quite an expense, mind you a flysurfer. I want to make the best choice, so all input is welcome.
naishdude wrote: Davince,
You are always talking about a kite, but which board do you use or better, do you want to use,
I can already get cruising with 12-15knts on my twin tip 135x42 and my ozone instinct 13m2. Just a lot of work, not much fun, can hardly jump, happy if I can keep ground and if the water is rough I can't.davince wrote:.... I intend primarily to use this kite with a "regular" twin-tip (135x42).
I agree the "sweetspot" for you would be slightly above 4bft range for the 15m.davince wrote:Thanks again DrLightwind. I have been quickly through the foilzone thread. Interesting.
I also read there that you're 65kg.
For the Speed 3 15m2 Deluxe there seems to be a consensus on the
"sweetspot" at 11-16+knts. Basically the 4bft range and slightly above. Can you confirm?
I understand you (DrLightwind) find it not sufficient on the low end. Just for your info,
4bft is a very frustrating wind range at 100kg, because everybody else is having fun on pretty much anything, except you.
The Speed 3 19 DLX is tempting of course because I should feel more covered in light winds, say around 10-12knts. Although some think different: "My advice is get a 15 not a 19 unless you already have a 15. Even if you're over 200 lbs." http://www.foilzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopi ... 15&t=12292. And also I expect a serious trade off on the fun factor above 12knts with the 19 vs S3 15 DLX. I assume also that a 15m2 would combine better with a 12m2 C-shape. Whereas I fear the dilemma at 15knts with a 19 " enough for the 12? Too much for a 19?".
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