Well I guess that’s what I’m saying, the mast is already all the way back with the straps all the way forward and I’m 180lbs... my back foot is always in front of the rear strap. So my wife at 125lbs would need a much smaller kite then me and I use a 6mcwood wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:35 amNo such thing as "too much lift" for a given weight. If you have the center of gravity correct it doesn't matter what you weigh....its about having the wing(s) flying stable elevation wise. If you put a lighter rider on your setup, then you have to move the mast back or move the footstraps forward to get the same balanced ride. It could have "too much lift" if you run out of adjustment.Laughingman wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:08 pmWhat would you guys recommend for a 125lb rider, she’s already foiling well on the happy foil. Medium aspect liquid force wings but I’d like to get her something with more glide so she can learn to jibe with flying foot switches etc. I have a Impulse foil but it’s got too much lift for her weight.
Interesting take on this. Ultimately losing the straps is the plan, which is why we only use front straps. I guess we should pull off the bandaid and just go for it. I was resisting because it gives me a spot to aim for with my back foot while switching feet. Thanks for your suggestionsPeter_Frank wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:56 pmOkay, we know the trim has to be offset some, changing from normal Moses wings to the Onda and reverse.
Laughingman, what about getting another board(s) instead?, where the tracks fit the 633 wing (AND also the smaller wings)
That would solve your problem, as when you stand correctly, these wings dont fly "up" with more speed/power.
Assume you dont wanna ride strapless, as if, you would not have this trim problem.
The beauty of these wings are, that even when too much kite, they are slower so they dont get out of control like smaller wings do, thus your wife should be able to ride with the 6 m2 quite far up in windstrength I would say
It is not too much lift, it is wrong trim which causes your issues
If you want straps, a new board could solve this - or modify your existing if room for moving strap inserts forward.
I once had a board long time ago with the very same problem regarding trim even with its standard wing - but as I went strapless 5 years ago and only ride strapped for jumping on rare occasions on newer boards where trim is spot on, I simply put a deckpad in front of the existing ones and problem solved now, strapless.
Would say though, that a 6 m2 for her weight is a really big kite quite fast so you could also get a 4 or 4.5 m2 or something like that, as you yourself dont have a kite for +20 knots so could be used here now.
For the average kiter her 6 m2 corresponds to more than an 8 m2, which on these wings got their sweetspot close to 10 knots.
Get the trim issue solved first, and then you can ride with your existing kites even if too big, and later you can find out if you want a smaller kite or not - would be my advice
My pocket board has rear foil plate screws 135mm from tail. Note I have 2016 fluente mast that is swept back 50mm.Rufusz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:59 pm@TomW: Does you pocket board have standard mount position? (~28cm from tail)
How much rocker does your board have?
I will make a pocket board at some point and wondering if I need rails or fixed mount will be OK. Now have 550/330 but planning to get other wings later.