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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:34 pm

90x165mm is a standard, hopefully brands can agree that following major standards is a good thing

Life’s too short for proprietary solutions

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby TomW » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:53 pm

T38 mast attachment is a disappointment. They should have either used tracks or used BigHead type integrated inserts with 3 positions 50mm between them. What they did is reliable, light and inexpensive to manufacture- but not very compatible.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Foil » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:16 am

TomW wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:53 pm
T38 mast attachment is a disappointment. They should have either used tracks or used BigHead type integrated inserts with 3 positions 50mm between them. What they did is reliable, light and inexpensive to manufacture- but not very compatible.
I agree, I thought it was just me thinking that was a bad move,that will turn some people off as this is a board Moses uses will generally trade up to, tracks have to be the best fully tune-able most user friendly and strongest solution to mounting a mast, big step forward changing to it on the T38 Ltd, now one step back putting only 2 hole position options on the standard red production T38, and its not cheap!

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby tkaraszewski » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:16 pm

Foil wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:16 am
TomW wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:53 pm
T38 mast attachment is a disappointment. They should have either used tracks or used BigHead type integrated inserts with 3 positions 50mm between them. What they did is reliable, light and inexpensive to manufacture- but not very compatible.
I agree, I thought it was just me thinking that was a bad move,that will turn some people off as this is a board Moses uses will generally trade up to, tracks have to be the best fully tune-able most user friendly and strongest solution to mounting a mast, big step forward changing to it on the T38 Ltd, now one step back putting only 2 hole position options on the standard red production T38, and its not cheap!
When I saw the new red one, I found a T38 LTD with tracks to order before they're sold out. Maybe they'll make more, but I didn't want to risk not being able to get one with tracks so I bought the only one I knew of that was available in the US.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby ap888 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:50 pm

Also massive advantages on tracks strip a t nut just put in new one...if the insert is in the board umm...now what

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby oregonkiter » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:34 am

Doubt I will ever buy a board without tracks. Too limiting.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby slowboat » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:41 am

oregonkiter wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:34 am
Doubt I will ever buy a board without tracks. Too limiting.
Not limiting if riding strapless

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby TomW » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:57 pm

slowboat wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:41 am
oregonkiter wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:34 am
Doubt I will ever buy a board without tracks. Too limiting.
Not limiting if riding strapless
True.
agree on the stripped t-nut thing too.

But those tracks are not inherently the strongest solution. They are heavy too.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby ap888 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:29 pm

Oh ahh new items dropping :o :baby:
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby tmcfarla » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:35 pm

oregonkiter wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:34 am
Doubt I will ever buy a board without tracks. Too limiting.
I borrowed a board with tracks once and found it took a lot longer to attach foil. Not that big a deal, but annoying. My preference would be multiple sets of inserts.

A single set of inserts on a production board is pretty lame though.


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