Nikbag wrote: ↑Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:54 pm
HQ scout 4.0 (this one top the list for now. Its on sale for 280 usd nearby)
That was my first kite. I was pretty disappointing in it, but later I came to realize it was a good kite for being non-depower. Still, I gave it away as I had no use for it, and purchased smaller trainers (Rush Pro in the 250 size) that I could actually teach with. Non-depower kites like trainers and traction kites, are almost usless for actually riding.
The reality is that what YOU want to learn on, and you want to teach OTHERS (who may not be as enthusiastic as you are about kiting) on, are 2 different things. Being dedicated to kiting, you have already accepted the risks. Others with a passive interest, need to be kept much safer via a small trainer. One bad experience can
But small trainers (no bigger than 250) are useful for you to use later for:
1. Checking the wind stability/gusts in an unfamiliar location or on an unfamiliar weather pattern/direction before you risk your larger kite or your body.
2. Introducing yourself to unhooked handle passes so you can determine if your shoulders will take the stress - safer, but not completely safe on a trainer.
3. Practicing other moves such as rotations - extremely safe on a trainer.
4. Smaller adults and kids are much safer with a smaller trainer, but caution still needs to be taken in medium winds. *No smaller adult or child should fly a trainer of any size in high winds until having developed a high degree of skill, and only should fly in strong winds with close supervision.
Nikbag wrote: ↑Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:54 pm
Im going on a trip in january With family and friends, and i want to buy a easy to use and somewhat safe kite for them to use, aswell i want the kite to have enough "power/pull" to be used for a little transition kiteboarding (skiis, snowboard etc).
Trainer kites of a proper size/weight can be used for kiteskiing, but will likely not have upwind capabilities. Still, they make for a good and safe training aid for kiteskiiers.
Trainer kites virtually cannot be used for kitesnowboarding as the kite NEEDS to have lots of power to lift a snowboarder from the sitting position to the standing position before any movement (apparent wind) is possible. In contrast, a kiteskiier is already standing and can move across the wind (creating apparent wind) before the kite even starts to generate usable power.
Bottom line is: NON-DEPOWER kites are almost only useful in trainer sizes. DEPOWER kites give an extreme advantage as far as ease of use and capabilities in sizes used to move a person around on the snow - especially with a snowboard.
The one exception to this is that large non-depower kite skill will make you a much better kiter with depower kites. Still, you have to give up a lot of fun, and have the perseverance to kite without having fun, to enjoy this benefit.