Teabageppo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:11 am
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The Revel is very easy to fly so long as you dont try to power it up or consume the power too quickly (will backstall).."
nope, you would struggle to backstall the 2017 rebel, it can take load just like the evo...it's not that high aspect (say compared to an edge) and the 2017 was the highest aspect of all the years. But I can load and pop it just as much as the 2016 evo.
Agreed, only advantage is old school board off with the rebel over the evo ...and of course its greater wind range. Evo needs a bit more wind over it to come alive and no kite holds itself better at max or beyond than the rebel...no kite.
But the other is the "feel' of the rebel, very direct, no bridals, no pulleys, loaded fifth...but this may have all changed it seems.
and Dracop...... "you, you could reload the fifth by shortening the fifth line or by adding extensions to the other four lines. I could try that approach if u guys really want to inow, sounds like it was an important Rebel feature"...
You cannot just load up the fifth on a 4 line, bridalled pulleyed kite to see how it feels, because it sounds like it was an important rebel feature"????
Sounds like to me you have no idea at all about the rebel nor loaded fifths, hence I also doubt your ability to compare kites...to be completely frank.
But the input is great though, the more the merrier.
Flying the 4 line 2018 Rebel, it does NOT like taking load. Everyone on my beach agrees with me on that. The review did not address 2017 Rebels. A 2017 EVO takes load a million times better than a 2018 Rebel. Try one out and you will discover the truth of it.
I am not familiar with the 2017 Rebel and this review was to judge the 2018 Rebel vs the 2017 EVO. Since North is going to be changing the EVO so drastically, it brings up the question of whether the 2018 Rebel is a replacement for the Evo.
As far as loading up the 5th, you can add tension to the fifth line- how a kite spreading load through a bridled system on The two front lines will react vs a direct connection on the two front lines in addition to the fifth, is certainly a great question. Can you still accomplish the short depower stroke with "light tension on the fifth" per the product clip or is the characterstic simply gone is the question?
Using stock settings, I think its gone.
Finally, please take your bad attitude back to your Aussie forum where bad attitudes are better accepted. There are alot of questions about the 2018 Rebel given the major changes (5 line to 4 with a bridle is Very different) and the changes this means for The North product platform since it looks like they will redesign the Evo).
This post is from an Evo user who teaches daily on evos (and rides C kites for personal riding) comparing the new 2018 Rebel to an 2017 Evo. If you want it compared to a 2017 Rebel, you need find a different review unless I can get my hands on a 2017 or older Rebel.
As far as loaded fifths, I will forever be a fan of the semi-loaded fifth line I use on my Torches; for all their weirdness I like the effects. Can it be used with bridled front lines? Interesting question altho it will require more than "light tension" on the fifth to overpower the effects of the bridling.
Change is upon you whether you like it or not, from North not from dracop, I am simply here looking at the new product and seeing where it fits. So please take the atittude back to your backwater where it belongs.