Fokiten
You contradict yourself constantly, thats true
You seem to have 20 cups of coffee then make posts that no-one fully understands, thats true.
You have strong passion for kiteboarding (not kites in general) and have issues with safety, thats true.
You post a lot, and are not a man of a few words, thats true.
And a lot of what you post is angry, confusing BS, thats true.
There is the BIG TRUTH, but that is not for this forum, then there is ordinary, personal truth, and what is true for you is not necessarily true for the next person (your truth, is in your beliefs), I hope you come to learn that one day, then you will demonstrate more tolerence, and post in a different, more respectful, open minded way, maybe?
A good instructor is someone who passionately wants to share the joy of kiteboarding with a student passing on both the dangers and the tips that will potentially save a life. The majority of good instructors are IKO trained, this leads to standardisation, and increased safety for us all.
IKO teach to talk less and demonstrate more, emphsizing the psychology ot teaching and learning more through observation, positive reinforcement, and clear communications with as much time as possible spent hands on flying small kites (short lines at first) at first, leading to larger inflatos and then the lessons progress to the water. Safety is covered from the very start, the less talking the instructor does during the hands on part of the lessons the better!
Trainer kites are not BS, they are REAL kites, they are the CORRECT way for all people that have never flown kites, to get their basic flying skills. This sport is 80+% kite flying skills, especially initially, that is the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!
Anything else is BS!
How else can you safely learn the wind window, learn how the wind behaves, learn how to manage kites, and lines?
Every trainer kite we have ever sold (tens of thousands over the last 12 years!!!!) comes with FREE lessons, and every person is told and shown where to fly that kite too, safely! They are also told to respect the space of other people.
It is totally unessecary for an instructor, to a big jumping super capable trick pulling athlete! However a good school will have at least one person who is in that category to do advanced coaching (no longer called lessons, because the person is now at the skill level to be self teaching, but in need of hints and encouragement).
Initially, the instructor is only teaching how to ride across the wind and go upwind, possibly touching on jumping, so why do they need to know how to do a toeside takeoff, 30' double backloop, with kite loop to blind landing?
None at all, of course!
Get real, get a trainer kite, fly it a lot, then get a kiteboarding specific lesson(s), before buying any gear, thats the best advice you can give any prospective kite boarder.
Cya and Goodwinds
Steve McCormack
IKO Rep in Australia
http://www.ikorg.com
australia@ikorg.com.au
fokiten wrote:mutant wrote:fokiten,
The idea of using the services of an instrutor is to help you avoid the pain that the early kitesurfers went through. Also to speed the learning curve and avoid the potential dangers to yourself and others.
I agree that less talking is good because most people dont listen but take in far more by experience but a certain amount of verbal is necessary.
Perhaps you are lucky enough to be a natural at this sport but for the vast majority who are not, to just be dumped in the water with a potential killing machine is totally irresponsible.
Now look here,,,
I am a man of few words, as such I lay out the entire subject in a paragraph or less. usually less,,
The above objections dismissed as follows:
If you use the bar like a steering wheel NOTHING happens, so f*** beach training.
Beach trainig is for Instructors not students.
The kite power is minimized by your body dragging the water,,on land you have to run to get this shock abosbing benift,, f*** beach training
Beach trainig comes after kite control is achieved by hours in the water,,
Killing Machine,,,,,,,exactly,,,the water is the ONLY place to start,,
f*** beach training>>>$$$$ for instructors<<<>>>no useful lessons for student kitesurfing has NOTHING to do with itty bitty lightning fast dangerious to other people on the beach string weapons,,
TRUTH,,
get it????
The thing you forum posters cannot get around is that I know what Im talking about,,you don't like it,,,But tough shit you can not suprise me,, you can call me names but you can not fault my arguments because I know what I'm talking about,, and I do not Bull-shit..
I post the whole truth,,and you are deffenceless against it,,
Sweet God in heaven,,
fikiten